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Call I had to make not 20 minutes ago
Man I'm just starting to cool down and I'm about 100% sure I made the wrong call however I am comfortable with it.
Let me lay out the situation. 5/10 NL 4 handed games 1 drunk away from busting. The drunk has probably never played in a cash game before. 10 minute after setting down with 200 he asked when the blinds go up. He proceeds to donk out on people and get about 700 winner. Hand in question comes up, Drunk limps BB (Regular friendly customer) raises 30 Drunk calls. Flop Ah 5c 2c Drunk Checks, regular bets 30. Drunk check raises to 60 Regular makes it 220. Drunk calls. All the regular player has left at this point is a 100 dollar bill (Cash plays) and 4 white chips. The problem now is that the dealer does not see the 100 bill and deals out the turn and river. The regular player turns his hand over and then realizes he wasn't all in and quickly turns it back over. This is when I'm called over. I basicly assume it as a burn and turn to soon and tell them that a cards coming back. Drunk starts yelling that he should get his 220 back that he put in on the flop, and that both the turn and river come back. I tell him that it is absolutely not going to happen. He proceeds to call me a [censored] piece of cheating [censored] and everything else yada yada yada. I might add that I did not know what the regular player had shown. Heres where my mistake came in, I kept the original river card and replaced the turn card. I got this drunk yelling and cussing in my ear and I make a mistake. I tell them to act on the original river card as the turn card and the drunk says [censored] it I'm all in. The regular player says call and sticks the money out there. The drunk player turns over AQ and the regular player does not table his hand yet. Rivers a Queen of diamonds and I honestly thought the drunk won the pot with Aces up(thought this was going to shut him up) However the original river card happened to be a club giving the regular player the nut Flush. This is when security was brought in to seperate me and said player etc. Why am I comfortable? If the [censored] would of shut up I would of made the correct decision. Also the guys ONLY argument was that he thought both the turn and river cards should come back. His argument was also not based on seeing the players hand as he also thought he had won with the Q hit giving him aces up. Sorry if this is all garbled but feel free to chime in. I did however almost want to say "no [censored] you" when the regular turned over the nuts. |
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Re: Call I had to make not 20 minutes ago
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Heres where my mistake came in, I kept the original river card and replaced the turn card. I got this drunk yelling and cussing in my ear and I make a mistake. I tell them to act on the original river card as the turn card and the drunk says [censored] it I'm all in. The regular player says call and sticks the money out there. The drunk player turns over AQ and the regular player does not table his hand yet. Rivers a Queen of diamonds and I honestly thought the drunk won the pot with Aces up(thought this was going to shut him up) However the original river card happened to be a club giving the regular player the nut Flush. [/ QUOTE ] Well you know yo made a mistake and it can't be undone. I would add that this sort of fundemental error should not be happening; the floor is suppsoed to be able to sor tthrough all the yelling and confusion that comes with this sort of situation. |
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Re: Call I had to make not 20 minutes ago
I agree however it's not the first mistake I've ever made and won't be the last and I'm ok with that. In the 4 years I've been a floor manager I think my track records been pretty good.
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Re: Call I had to make not 20 minutes ago
you brought back the turn but left the river out there? what?
if you're telling the story correctly, I'd be so pissed off if I was the drunk guy |
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Re: Call I had to make not 20 minutes ago
That's what ended up happening and as soon as the situation calmed down I realized the wrong card came back.
The drunk is very pissed. However he's pissed because he wants both cards to come back. The fact that the wrong card was brought back was never the issue. The ONLY people that realize what went wrong here are me and 2+2. Player thinks he should get to pull his 220 back that he put in on the flop, start over at the flop and deal a new turn and river. And I'm a [censored] ass hole because I won't let it happen. |
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Re: Call I had to make not 20 minutes ago
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The ONLY people that realize what went wrong here are me and 2+2. [/ QUOTE ] There is another mistake in there. Afte ryou make a decision you should leave the table so if someone wants to argue they have to leave the table and go someplace else to talk about it. |
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Re: Call I had to make not 20 minutes ago
I did leave the table however my podium is at the front of a small 6 table enclosed room. Wasn't too much I could do to avoid it.
Also the 2 other players at the table left while I was trying to get the story and make my decision |
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Re: Call I had to make not 20 minutes ago
so you're saying that the regular flipped up his cards, showed the drunk guy that he had the nut flush with the river card that's actually the turn card, and the drunk guy pushed all in with 1 pair knowing he was drawing dead?!?
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Re: Call I had to make not 20 minutes ago
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so you're saying that the regular flipped up his cards, showed the drunk guy that he had the nut flush with the river card that's actually the turn card, and the drunk guy pushed all in with 1 pair knowing he was drawing dead?!? [/ QUOTE ] I believe the drunk didn't see the exposed cards (since he thought his two pair won). |
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Re: Call I had to make not 20 minutes ago
Leibniz obv has the correct answer, and I especially agree that the OP should have dealt with this calmly. Your job is to deal with idiots without getting emotional, there's zero reason some cursing drunk tard should be getting to you.
Anyway, the end result seems just fine. No way are they not getting the money in by the river in the original hand. Then in the re-deal, the drunk volunteered to go all in. |
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