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06-19-2007, 01:24 AM
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200NL..Flush draws v shorties
Ok,
This is kind've theory, and I think ultra-standard, but I'm gonna ask anyways.. Edit: Didn't notice the kinda weird postflop play. UTG+1 was a fish. The villains are 32/7/3 and 33/2/1 Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $232.15 BB: $117.70 UTG: $121.70 UTG+1: $97.40 Hero (MP1): $197.00 MP2: $231.40 CO: $82.00 BTN: $183.55 Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players) UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2.00, Hero calls $2.00, MP2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8.00</font>, BTN calls $8.00, 3 folds, Hero calls $6.00 Flop: ($29) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $14.00</font>, BTN folds, Hero ??? 
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#2
06-19-2007, 01:32 AM
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Re: 200NL..Flush draws v shorties
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Edit: Didn't notice the kinda weird postflop play. UTG+1 was a fish. [/ QUOTE ] Not weird at all. Limping A5s is fine once in a while. I'd raise that up almost always in this position. He has very loose preflop stats, reducing the chances he actually has a hand. I'd just stick it in.
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#4
06-19-2007, 01:38 AM
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Re: 200NL..Flush draws v shorties
You mean you would stick it in postflop?
Actually I would limp this often but for the nits wanted to explain that it was a definite non questionable play Pre because of that. Other than questioning if I should raise or w/e, which I would do sometimes and sometimes not..this happened to be one of the times I didn't raise [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#6
06-19-2007, 03:39 AM
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Re: 200NL..Flush draws v shorties
Calling here also isn't terrible, but I'd lean towards shoving because you have a LOT of FE against Villain's range. Also, as there is only a pot sized raise left, your shove isn't going to get you into an ugly situation.
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#8
06-19-2007, 03:54 AM
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Re: 200NL..Flush draws v shorties
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Calling here also isn't terrible, but I'd lean towards shoving because you have a LOT of FE against Villain's range. Also, as there is only a pot sized raise left, your shove isn't going to get you into an ugly situation. [/ QUOTE ] You really like just calling at all? What happens when the 10h or 7h or some other heart comes on the turn and he shuts down?
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#9
06-19-2007, 04:01 AM
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Re: 200NL..Flush draws v shorties
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You really like just calling at all? What happens when the 10h or 7h or some other heart comes on the turn and he shuts down? [/ QUOTE ] I don't like it, I said it's not horrible. You only need an additional $14 into the pot when the [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] hits, which should be easy against this guy if he has a hand. I believe raising has a higher +EV, though, which is why I recommend it over calling.
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#10
06-19-2007, 12:16 PM
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Re: 200NL..Flush draws v shorties
Ok, there are 2 assumptions that you guys are making.
Does villain have a hand he likes? And following that, is it a hand he can fold. I really don't know if you have ANY Fold Equity here. Either he bet super weak because he knows any call is going to commit him, or he made the weakest continuation bet. Either you're going for stacks here, or you give up right now. As is, I would make whichever play holds more FE, and that would either be open shoving, or repopping to 45, shoving turn. Do people think open shoving this flop has more FE??? That's a huge stack to be wielding around on such a small pot.
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