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Old 11-30-2007, 12:42 PM
Turlock Turlock is offline
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Default $10 JJ facing shove and call @15/30

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1150
UTG+1: t1118
MP1: t1340
CO: t1835
Hero: t2870
SB: t4020
BB: t1167

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t45)</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, SB folds, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in t1167</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 calls all-in t1088</font>, Hero ???<font color="aaaaaa[/color">.

No reads as such yet,but I find that these shoves are 77-99 or similar a lot of the time,the guy who called in early position may think the same and have 2 broadway cards,can I turn down this chance to triple up?
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: $10 JJ facing shove and call @15/30

EZ Fold.

It's so early, and you are flipping, at best.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: $10 JJ facing shove and call @15/30

I fold here. This is not a triple up for you, it's a double up IF you beat both of the other two - otherwise you lose half your stack. I'm not a fan of JJ after a shove and an overcall.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: $10 JJ facing shove and call @15/30

Yeah,not a triple up,but I knew what i meant [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:17 PM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: $10 JJ facing shove and call @15/30

This is actually close but why did you not raise preflop, jeez.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: $10 JJ facing shove and call @15/30

Agree about a raise preflop here with this stack, 4xBB, then with more action or overs on the flop, throw it away. The non-raise PF is due to playing JJ as middle pair I guess, something I do myself in the early stages.
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: $10 JJ facing shove and call @15/30

Yeah,I normally raise here pre flop,I've just been experimenting with over calling TT and JJ in the first 2 levels,which helps to keep me out of trouble early on.Is this not a good idea?
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: $10 JJ facing shove and call @15/30

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Yeah,I normally raise here pre flop,I've just been experimenting with over calling TT and JJ in the first 2 levels,which helps to keep me out of trouble early on.Is this not a good idea?

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It's a better idea when you don't have position. From the button, a raise is probably in order. Don't fear playing big pots with position, but playing big pots OOP is bad enough that limping from early position makes more sense.
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: $10 JJ facing shove and call @15/30

this is actually a little closer than most people seem to be thinking, but id likely still fold without read. How the two active players lost chips is very relevant. It also may be worth sharkscoping one or both of them in-game if possible. I'd also have raised pf the first time, and I'm not folding QQ in this spot.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: $10 JJ facing shove and call @15/30

I would call cause you doubled up early so you still might be on that heater. First guys got 77 other guy got the old AK your are so luck boxing it you just gotta call.

(in reality its a fold.)
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