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Old 11-29-2007, 04:31 PM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Fold or push, readless?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

MP2 (t1385)
MP3 (t1490)
CO (t1455)
Button (t1575)
SB (t1645)
BB (t1330)
Hero (t1680)
UTG+1 (t1470)
MP1 (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t30, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t120) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t30</font>, BB calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t180</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t660</font>, BB folds, Hero ??
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 99 on 337 board

fold,
it's highly possible sb has a 3,
why loose so many chips while the while you still got +30bb

edit: i mean why risk... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:13 PM
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I'd probably muck here readless. Villain might show up with some fds here or A7 but regardless his line is pretty strong and I can easily see him w/ a 3.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 99 on 337 board

Unraised pre-flop why risk going broke? This should be played for a set. What's it called fit or fold?

If your going to put all your chips at risk in this situation, you should be folding 99 UTG.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:31 PM
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But... it's an overpair!!!!!
Seriously I have a hard time folding here, since SB's line looks like a flushdraw(please let me draw cheaply - oh wait you raise? - well, i got FE!!11) a lot.
Prolly I would tho.
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:29 PM
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I would give it up, minbet/big re-raise is very very often a monster hand that has you crushed. Assuming you folded, I like your play on this hand though.
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:43 PM
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In a $16 readless I'll go broke with an Overpair, especially if SB makes something donkish like minbetting into a family pot. You'll be favorite often enough to push, and you've already invested a lot of your chips, so go broke or start a new SnG.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:12 PM
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In a $16 readless I'll go broke with an Overpair, especially if SB makes something donkish like minbetting into a family pot. You'll be favorite often enough to push, and you've already invested a lot of your chips, so go broke or start a new SnG.

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I assume you don't play the 16's and think they are super weak.
Can you maybe explain a bit with maths why a push over is better? We only beat 7x 88 and a bluff.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:39 PM
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I assume you don't play the 16's and think they are super weak.
Can you maybe explain a bit with maths why a push over is better? We only beat 7x 88 and a bluff.

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You'll beat also the Flush-Draws, 55, 44.
I'm not sure how they play at 16s.
I use to play ultraturbos or multitable sngs and there it is often worth to take the risk. If you feel, at 16s at this site, the SB will have trips very often go with it and fold. It might be best. I just said, I'll go broke unless player has shown me something different (what I'd make a note of and not redoing a bet in such situation again).
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:06 PM
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I would fold this, these days people just aren't bad enough (usually) to not have trips here, yes you will see a fd sometimes but that's not that great as they will often have 40-45% equity.
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