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Old 09-24-2007, 03:18 PM
Felix_Nietzsche Felix_Nietzsche is offline
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/22/bu...ss/22toys.html
After several embarassing toy recalls from toys made in Chi-Com factories, Mattel was coerced into apologizing to the Chi-Com people.

“It’s like a bank robber apologizing to his accomplice instead of to the person who was robbed,”
Senator Charles E. Schumer
*Wow....this may be the first time I agree with Schumer. Although a better analogy would be, 'It is like a bank robber forcing his victim to apologize to him.' Chinese factories chose to take shortcuts and use lead paint and now they want Mattel to take the fall. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Mattel is getting what they deserve....

It is not heard to read between the lines why a customer was apologizing to a vendor.
XMas season is coming and the Chi-Coms strong-armed Mattel to apologize or risk state sponsored factory strikes. Mattel blinked. Better to build factories in countries like Mexico than to lose that extra penny in costs than do business with a thoroghly corrupt and warlike regme like the Chi-Coms. If the USA goes to war with the Chi-Coms over Taiwan (which by treaty we are obligated to protect), these same corporate types will petition the US govt to reimburse them for that lost assets.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:32 PM
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I heard on the radio that Mattel has to admit that some of the problems were their own specs. and/or design flaws. Not sure if that's true or not.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:47 PM
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I heard on the radio that Mattel has to admit that some of the problems were their own specs. and/or design flaws. Not sure if that's true or not.

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Is true - here's the proof

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Old 09-24-2007, 03:56 PM
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I heard on the radio that Mattel has to admit that some of the problems were their own specs. and/or design flaws. Not sure if that's true or not.

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I heard that too and I had the same reaction as Felix: that China is leaning on Mattel to take the fall for the problems.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:26 PM
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Of all the recalls made, 80% of them had to do with design flaws on Mattels part, not lead paint. Some executive thought he could hoist the blame on China because everyone in the US is a xenophobe, and the Chinese are having none of it.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:27 PM
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Pretty tough to screw up a toy spec...
I'm sure the Chi-Coms have hired a PR firm and are seeking to make Mattel the scape-goat.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:46 PM
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Pretty tough to screw up a toy spec...


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Why in the world would you think that?
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:48 PM
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I heard on the radio that Mattel has to admit that some of the problems were their own specs. and/or design flaws. Not sure if that's true or not.

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Is true - here's the proof



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YES!!! MORE MSPAINT IN POLITIX PLZ.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:55 PM
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Why in the world would you think that?

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Because I have a BS in Industrial Engineering and I have extensive factory experience. Other than that...no reason.
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:10 PM
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Why in the world would you think that?

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Because I have a BS in Industrial Engineering and I have extensive factory experience. Other than that...no reason.

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And you've never seen a screwed up spec come through? Never experienced a post-production problem that could/should have been caught in the original design/spec or product testing? How many toy recalls are there every single year --- those are mostly design issues. Something wasn't tested thoroughly, too small a piece was used here or there, the wrong glue was used. I think our collective experience with recalls tells us that it is very easy to make a design mistake, but I'll defer to your factory experience on this one.
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