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Old 11-19-2007, 05:09 AM
Vinetou Vinetou is offline
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Default 400NL c bet against two shorties?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($742)
UTG ($407)
MP ($162.20)
CO ($121.60)
Button ($397)
Hero ($799.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $16, CO calls $16.

Flop: ($64) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ????????

<font color="black"> I should raise a little more preflop, I know. I was wondering if it is profitable to c bet in this spot against shorties? They just joined the table, no reads, but shortstacks are known to stack on any pair so there is a possibility that with two of them, someone will push and I will have to call with my overcards+gutshot.</font>
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:14 AM
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Default Re: 400NL c bet against two shorties?

no
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:22 AM
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Default Re: 400NL c bet against two shorties?

yes
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: 400NL c bet against two shorties?

if you are bet/calling i'd rather C/R, is my logic flawed?
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:02 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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if you are bet/calling i'd rather C/R, is my logic flawed?

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I think I'd just rather b/c. Not sure if we can count on the shorties betting when they've missed the flop, flopped a gs etc. And that's when we really like a bet to go in. We might even commit one of them with a better hand than ours he'd fold if we bet, like a smaller PP. Also I'd never c/r a good hand so it doesn't really fit. I haven't experimented much with c/r in situations like this so I might be wrong though.

Just check/folding is clearly bad though, as we'll have at very least 36% eq vs their pushing range, I would even argue we'll have almost 40% eq vs their range making it +ev even if we have no fe at all.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: 400NL c bet against two shorties?

$70/call push
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