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Old 11-07-2007, 10:49 AM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default $60 KK L1, turn is ace

unknown villian, he got his stack when AA>KK AIPF.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP2 (t1490)
CO (t1490)
Button (t1590)
Hero (t1460)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t2970)
MP1 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t20, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t80.

Flop: (t220) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t160</font>, UTG+1 calls t160.

Turn: (t540) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: (t540) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t500</font>, Hero calls t500.

Final Pot: t1540
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:00 AM
Pocketbear Pocketbear is offline
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Default Re: $60 KK L1, turn is ace

I think the river is close, but I'd play it the same.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: $60 KK L1, turn is ace

you basically are putting him on AT/A8/66/TT right?

seems close, i guess its fine.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: $60 KK L1, turn is ace

This does not look like a bluff to me. The turn would be the place for him to bluff, imo.
I don't think he bet 55-77-99 on the river, maybe JJ ? He could also bet an Ace after you check 2 times. 66 is another possibility.

I porbably call bc I'm a station and you don't have reads but my spidey sense tells me you're beat more often than not here.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: $60 KK L1, turn is ace

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This does not look like a bluff to me. The turn would be the place for him to bluff, imo.
I don't think he bet 55-77-99 on the river, maybe JJ ? He could also bet an Ace after you check 2 times. 66 is another possibility.

I porbably call bc I'm a station and you don't have reads but my spidey sense tells me you're beat more often than not here.

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i tend to agree, its just that an ace is not likely and the bet sizing looking bluffy, but a lot of villains dont guage that too well, which is why its probably a fold ingame. the contrast is that those dumb villains do often turn low pps into bluffs thinking "an ace is out, maybe he hit a low one, im gonna fire hard on the river since he checked on the turn and put him off it"... itd be more interesting/closer if he bet like 300 on the river probably.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: $60 KK L1, turn is ace

I'm folding river. Looks like an 8 that wants to get the value he missed on the turn. He could also have the ace.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: $60 KK L1, turn is ace

Large river bets scream valuetown in STTs usually. I'm folding. Quite a few hands beating us &amp; not a lot of likely bluff hands.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: $60 KK L1, turn is ace

I'd play the exact same way.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: $60 KK L1, turn is ace

I'm folding too, I don't think we're ahead of enough to justify a call here. Also if you call and lose you're pretty hurt in chips.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: $60 KK L1, turn is ace

I would have to go with whatever read i had at the time. I can't decide either way. I may lean towards folding with no read because you will still have plenty of chips if you do fold.
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