Strange spot with AA

[coldi]

This is indeed strange. I dont see villain (SB) having a 6 here very often rather 77/33 but maybe hes just trying to see where he stands with 88/99 or maybe 55..

BB can have about everything, from a gutshot to a made sixes full. I think calling is no option since either SB or BB will probably bet the river and if there is on of the many scarecards left, this spot becomes even uglier. i think i fold this, although shoving is an option as well (although by shoving u will probably not get paid out by pocket pairs, but by calling neither), but i think at least one of them has you beat.

just fold and see one of them show a set in the showdown

[FionnMac]

bump one time

[Melchiades]

I think he will play an overpair like this a lot given the station in between you so he can valuebet him and put a lot of pressure on you. It also makes sense for him to sometimes call with a big hand preflop here given he doesn't want to push out BB, no?

Shove. We have lots of equity vs a range of boats overpairs and straights. I know SB will rarely call a shove with much worse, but BB will and the pot is already big.

I guess it comes down to how likely he is to play 88+ like this.

Board: 7s 6s 6d 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 71.455% 70.45% 01.00% 1550 22.00 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 28.545% 27.55% 01.00% 606 22.00 { 66+, 33, 76s, 54s }

Board: 7s 6s 6d 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.273% 49.27% 00.00% 542 0.00 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 50.727% 50.73% 00.00% 558 0.00 { 99-66, 33, 76s, 54s }

[whorasaurus]

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I think he will play an overpair like this a lot given the station in between you so he can valuebet him and put a lot of pressure on you. It also makes sense for him to sometimes call with a big hand preflop here given he doesn't want to push out BB, no?

Shove. We have lots of equity vs a range of boats overpairs and straights. I know SB will rarely call a shove with much worse, but BB will and the pot is already big.

I guess it comes down to how likely he is to play 88+ like this.

Board: 7s 6s 6d 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 71.455% 70.45% 01.00% 1550 22.00 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 28.545% 27.55% 01.00% 606 22.00 { 66+, 33, 76s, 54s }

Board: 7s 6s 6d 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.273% 49.27% 00.00% 542 0.00 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 50.727% 50.73% 00.00% 558 0.00 { 99-66, 33, 76s, 54s }

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I'm skeptical that overpairs are a large part of SB's range. Flatting PF, and c/c this flop multiway does not indicate 88-KK to me.

[Melchiades]

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I'm skeptical that overpairs are a large part of SB's range. Flatting PF, and c/c this flop multiway does not indicate 88-KK to me.

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Forget my ranges, realize they were [censored]. But why is flatting here weird with a big'ish hand? Preflop, we raised and he does not want to push out BB. Flop, I guess he could lead overpairs a lot. But if he doesn't, he won't CR for the same reasons. Keep fish in the hand.

[Melchiades]

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Nice fold.
SB played this hand perfect with anything that beats you.

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Also with JJ/TT apparently. Since he can valuetown BB and bluff out us at the same time.

Edit: Strange. The post I quoted got deleted?

[whorasaurus]

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Nice fold.
SB played this hand perfect with anything that beats you.

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Also with JJ/TT apparently. Since he can valuetown BB and bluff out us at the same time.

Edit: Strange. The post I quoted got deleted?

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I mean, SB has postflop aggro of 3. I don't see that c/c this flop and then being like "sweet, no overcards came, I'm going to take this down."

I guess I'm for a fold b/c I'm assuming SB is good, as the OP indicates. If you think he's not so good, then push. BB will probably call.

[Unarmed]

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Nice fold.
SB played this hand perfect with anything that beats you.

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Also with JJ/TT apparently. Since he can valuetown BB and bluff out us at the same time.

Edit: Strange. The post I quoted got deleted?

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It was mine. I posted and then didn't feel like writing more so I deleted it. I don't like making one line responses whenever I get the energy to actually contribute. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Anyway, its a fold b/c of what everyone already said. He doesn't have many overpairs in his range given OP opened button and he's 23/19. Even if he has some overpairs in his range he's not betting the turn enough with them. Give me a read on OP or something but against a rando TAG I muck.

[whorasaurus]

I would be very surprised to see SB leading turn with anything you beat tbh.