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Old 09-03-2007, 01:50 AM
Casper05 Casper05 is offline
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Default AK, river play

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $794.30
BB: $384.75
UTG: $616.25
MP: $128.90
CO: $198.10
Hero (BTN): $502.70

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 42/16</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $4.00, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.00</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $14.00

Flop: ($42) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $24.00</font>, UTG calls $24.00

Turn: ($90) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $44.00</font>, UTG calls $44.00

River: ($178) 4 (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $44.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:55 AM
Al_Money Al_Money is offline
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Default Re: AK, river play

I bet more on the flop and turn, I probably call river. Probably some really poorly played two pair, I don't think there's value in raising.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: AK, river play

Bet more on flop and turn. As played call the river.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: AK, river play

i think you should raise the river smallish. $120 looks good.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: AK, river play

What was your plan on the turn with that less than 1/2 pot bet? As played, call.

That flop is great for you and I don't see any reason to make a CB here, because there are no draws to fear. I like to check such flops and start to act on the turn and river. When I check these flops, lots of Villains pay me of huge because they think I'm sitting there with a missed KQs or 99,TT, maybe QQ.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: AK, river play

eigen,
i think not betting this flop is generally a mistake vs. most villans. i like betting for value.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:14 AM
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That flop is great for you and I don't see any reason to make a CB here, because there are no draws to fear.

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not betting the flop here is just leaving money on the table. donks routinely call in these spots with gutters, 2nd pair, or worse!
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:15 AM
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What was your plan on the turn with that less than 1/2 pot bet? As played, call.

[/ QUOTE ]I didn't think he was going to call 3/4+ PSB on the turn AND river with a weaker Ace, but I did think he would call 1/2 and 1/2. Checking the turn is an option, but then we can only bet 70ish on the river. If he calls the turn bet of 44, I can bet 90ish on the river and I gained an extra $64.

Its a line I've been experimenting with some lately and haven't really come to a conclusion yet. It has allowed me to make smaller river bluffs vs some regs, and it has allowed me to get more value out of monsters as well because I've been seen 3 barreling TPTK or less, so they obv call down with bottom 2 when I have better...but they don't notice that the bets were larger.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:41 AM
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Default Re: AK, river play

That turn bet sucks - in fact all your bets are too small. I typically call river. I can see a raise being OK - but it makes your hand so obvious. Saying that - a 42/16 aint fold Ax here
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:48 AM
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def bet more, a large part of your winrate comes from vbetting and you are just leaving a lot of money on the table vs this villain. id raise river to $133 and fold to a shove.
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