QQ vs 3 bettor 3/6

[Praetor]

unknown raises, SB 41/15/2 over 100 hands makes it $67 and I cold call with QQ in the BB. unknown folds.

Flop comes Ad3h7h. He bets $48 and I call

Turn 3c. He bets $48 again. wtf? I assume call

river blank, 9 or something. He bets $96. call?

[Yeti]

ugh i hate these so much.

tons of ways this can go. sometimes i fold turn. sometimes i minraise the turn. i usually fold the river, though if he bets 48 i always call, so what do i know.

[tcorbin16]

lol w/e id prob play this the same. its prob some monster but w/e make a note afterwards.

[higHstaKesOwneR]

i also call the flop
as yeti said i fold the turn also sometimes
here i fold the river against a 48& bet i call

if you don't know what to do vs. a riverbet i like minraising the turn much more for free sd
it's relativly cheap and if he 3bets turn or donks river you can fold

so i think
minraising > c/c @ the turn here

thoughts?

[dillip kothari]

I hate turn call. I love turn raise or turn fold. Don't raise too much b/c you can get same information and effect with a small raise. He bet out 48 on turn. Either fold, or raise to 125 or 115. If he raises, fold. If he calls turn raise, you have free showdown, or fold to river donk bet.

[Praetor]

this hand was so gay

[Number27]

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I hate turn call. I love turn raise or turn fold. Don't raise too much b/c you can get same information and effect with a small raise. He bet out 48 on turn. Either fold, or raise to 125 or 115. If he raises, fold. If he calls turn raise, you have free showdown, or fold to river donk bet.

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Isn't a turn raise bad here? Raising on the turn is the same thing as call turn, call river except that we are folding out bluffs. There's also a chance that he checks the river after being called on the turn allowing for even cheaper showdown.

[A__theKevlar__2]

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Isn't a turn raise bad here? Raising on the turn is the same thing as call turn, call river except that we are folding out bluffs. There's also a chance that he checks the river after being called on the turn allowing for even cheaper showdown.

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i agree with this

[Praetor]

he had KK, i shoudl have folded river

[6471849653]

AK, Ace-something, KK, JJ, TT, 99? The weakest he may bet the turn with is JJ? Considering that you called a reraise cold preflop. JJ is 0.45%. AA, KK, JJ, AK(+) that would be a total of about 2.55%, meaning that 18% of those hands you could beat at that point (not considering he has lesser aces than AK that he actually may look to have as at river he thinks his hand is the best but he wasn't sure before, but still, why so small a flop bet? 99? You are not going to fold anything on the flop after his 50 flop bet). The pot odds on the turn are that much. At the river the pot is giving "20%" or less when he bets 100 to some 300+ pot that looks like a reasonable value bet rather than a bluff though it's twice as big as the bets before.