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Old 05-12-2007, 08:52 PM
terencetsao terencetsao is offline
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Default How many ppl like my lead out on the flop?

POKERSTARS GAME #9879418415: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/05/12 - 18:51:42 (ET)
Table 'Kiviuq' 10-max Seat #10 is the button
Seat 1: AK_lucky_AK ($15.45 in chips)
Seat 3: radmanjeff ($14.65 in chips)
Seat 4: colase ($10.65 in chips)
Seat 5: himlion ($28.60 in chips)
Seat 6: terencetsao ($17.25 in chips)
Seat 7: ship-da-stew ($70.90 in chips)
Seat 8: jay3432 ($2.70 in chips)
Seat 9: WebKase ($20.65 in chips)
Seat 10: AyoungmoneyA ($28.40 in chips)
AK_lucky_AK: posts small blind $0.25
Biscuit2000: is sitting out
radmanjeff: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to terencetsao [Jh Js]
colase: calls $0.50
himlion: folds
terencetsao: raises $0.50 to $1
ship-da-stew: folds
jay3432: calls $1
WebKase: raises $0.50 to $1.50
AyoungmoneyA: folds
AK_lucky_AK: folds
radmanjeff: folds
colase: calls $1
terencetsao: calls $0.50
jay3432: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [3s 8s Qh]
colase: checks
terencetsao: bets $0.50
jay3432: folds
WebKase: folds
colase: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [3s 8s Qh] [7d]
colase: checks
terencetsao: bets $1
Biscuit2000 leaves the table
colase: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [3s 8s Qh 7d] [6h]
colase: checks
terencetsao: checks

I decide to lead out the turn for 2 reasons:
1. I hope the preflop reraiser raise me to isolate the rest of the field.
2. I also want to find out where i stand at the hand, Because i can not just cold call on the flop.

Any thoughts on any streets?
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:14 PM
OziBattler OziBattler is offline
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Default Re: How many ppl like my lead out on the flop?

why didnt you convert this hand like u did for other posts? if you fix it (even if that means your edit time has expired so youll have to just reply) youll likely get more responses....
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: How many ppl like my lead out on the flop?

also careful with posting 99 hands at once pls [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:16 PM
BigBadBabar BigBadBabar is offline
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Default Re: How many ppl like my lead out on the flop?

also cap pf pls
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:33 PM
terencetsao terencetsao is offline
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Default Re: How many ppl like my lead out on the flop?

ops i thought i converted it!
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:34 PM
terencetsao terencetsao is offline
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Default Re: How many ppl like my lead out on the flop?

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (13.5SB, 4 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.75BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9.75BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:36 PM
terencetsao terencetsao is offline
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Default Re: How many ppl like my lead out on the flop?

I was thinking about caping preflop, but i questioned myself if i really do have an equity edge for doing that? Do i have it? I didn't do it because i think some one will have a higher pair than me most of the time.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: How many ppl like my lead out on the flop?

[ QUOTE ]
I didn't do it because i think some one will have a higher pair than me most of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]

If this is the case then why lead the flop. Your ideas contradict. I also cap JJ prefop almost allways.

I lead the flop too, but like it more if I am the last aggresor preflop. If you get called on the flop or raised then it is time to start looking at odds and posibly getting away from it.
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Old 05-13-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: How many ppl like my lead out on the flop?

Thats better [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Yes, cap preflop.
Then, since you didnt, leading out the flop is marginal.
(No wait. The original HH says there are 4 players left. In the converted HH you are HU. Those are two different animals...)

Anyway: against 3 callers on the flop, it is a clear c/f.
Against one caller: It is a bet and c/c on the river IMO.
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:17 AM
Bubble Bully Bubble Bully is offline
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Default Re: How many ppl like my lead out on the flop?

As played, is valuing betting the river wrong?
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