AP infinity plus one - New AP Statement

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On a different Mark Seif-related issue, I recall early in your analysis of the infamous Potripper tournament HH file you discovered that account #363 had observed Mark Seif's table for a short period of time. But in reading all of these threads I never saw any description of the HHs for the hands that #363 observed. Was there anything out of the ordinary about them? Did Seif win any of them in unusual fashion or did he make any extraordinary laydowns? Was there any chat between Seif and observer #363?

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I'm not Nat, but #363 never observed Seif's table. A different account with the same IP address as #363 observed Seif's table.

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Yup. It was only 20 seconds or so that the other account on that IP opened up Seif's table.

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Also, I just double checked the original info and it looks like the other account on that IP opened up the table on the 2nd break. There wasn't a hand going on.

[TonyDanza]

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5. The suspected period of time of the security breach has been identified. This period is recent and confined to a relatively brief period. The actual dates will be publicly released upon confirmation by the third party auditor

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I don't know if this has been said before, but how could they identify the time period of the breach when they don't keep hand histories for more than 2 months (or so they say when Seif wants hand histories from Feb 2006)?

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Imagine this hypothetical scenario:

[1] I relocate to, and incorporate a business in Belize.

[2] The investors in my corporation are my Aunts, Uncles, Brothers, Sisters, Cousins, Friends, etc. and are all based in the U.S.

[3] I use my corporation to successfully swindle American citizens out of millions of dollars.

[4] The entirety of the proceeds from my scam are redistributed as dividends to my shareholders.

I'm island hopping in the Caymans into perpetuity, my relatives and friends are filthy rich in the U.S.

Is everyone "safe"? If so, is this not the perfect business model assuming one cares little about ethical considerations?

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Swindling is a crime both in the US and in caribbiean nations, so the US can ask them to extradite you to the US for trial and they will turn you over.

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You are mixing up civil and criminal issues

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Nope. Swindling is criminal, in both places, so the US could grab the swindler from the Caribbean. I did not say that the moms and pops and cousins can't keep the dividends. I assume they can. A scheme which lets you get profits to your relatives - but you still end up in jail - is not really a good scheme.

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No, its not. But it doesn't get any money in the pockets of the victims. 2+2 isn't getting anyone extradited. It has been instrumental in getting some repayments.

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folks are going to jail for this one, baby. If not there, then here.

[highhustla]

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5. The suspected period of time of the security breach has been identified. This period is recent and confined to a relatively brief period. The actual dates will be publicly released upon confirmation by the third party auditor

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I don't know if this has been said before, but how could they identify the time period of the breach when they don't keep hand histories for more than 2 months (or so they say when Seif wants hand histories from Feb 2006)?

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I'm not sure it's been said, but it is indeed the obvious question.

AP is soooooooooo [censored] full of [censored], one way or the other.

[El_Hombre_Grande]

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Imagine this hypothetical scenario:

[1] I relocate to, and incorporate a business in Belize.

[2] The investors in my corporation are my Aunts, Uncles, Brothers, Sisters, Cousins, Friends, etc. and are all based in the U.S.

[3] I use my corporation to successfully swindle American citizens out of millions of dollars.

[4] The entirety of the proceeds from my scam are redistributed as dividends to my shareholders.

I'm island hopping in the Caymans into perpetuity, my relatives and friends are filthy rich in the U.S.

Is everyone "safe"? If so, is this not the perfect business model assuming one cares little about ethical considerations?

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Swindling is a crime both in the US and in caribbiean nations, so the US can ask them to extradite you to the US for trial and they will turn you over.

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You are mixing up civil and criminal issues

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Nope. Swindling is criminal, in both places, so the US could grab the swindler from the Caribbean. I did not say that the moms and pops and cousins can't keep the dividends. I assume they can. A scheme which lets you get profits to your relatives - but you still end up in jail - is not really a good scheme.

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No, its not. But it doesn't get any money in the pockets of the victims. 2+2 isn't getting anyone extradited. It has been instrumental in getting some repayments.

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folks are going to jail for this one, baby. If not there, then here.

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I hope. But you need to realize that the Bush DOJ has considered these guys rogues anyway, despite Aboriginal rights or the WTO rulings. I'm not sure they view AP as all that different at the moment than any other operator. In fact, I would bet they will use the AP thing to cast a pall on all operators, whether impeccably honest or not.

[GaryTheGoat]

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I was under the impression that Tokwiro Enterprises owned Absolute Poker, but that Absolute Entertainment SA was owned by someone else.

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Interesting, if correct. Especially in light of absolutepoker.com and aplady.com being registered to Absolute Entertainment SA, PO Box 346, Corozal Town, Belize.

We need to get our hands on AP's filings with the KGC.

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Have you looked at:

PART IV: ASSESSING SUITABILITY 25. p 9 of 52

Prima facie evidence of suitability

http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommissio...ve%20Gaming.pdf

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[highhustla]

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seriously, dude.

[suzzer99]

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seriously, dude.

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There's a reason this site doesn't have signatures like every other retarted site out there. Gary why do you feel the need to open up that can of worms?

-suzzer99

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From G911
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"Gambling911.com sources reveal how a former Nine.com tech support specialist was also brought on to help in the development and testing of the newly upgraded software.

"This individual I seriously doubt was involved in cheating players," our source discloses. "But what I do know is that he discovered the flaw and had presented it to Absolute Poker executives to show there was a problem with the software. His intention was to create a patch."

But there appeared to be little if any follow up. Instead we now learn that one or more individuals used this knowledge to cheat some tournament players during the month of September."

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"An investigation has been launched by the The Kahnawake Gaming Commission. Erroneous reports have the Quebec law enforcement getting involved with Kahnawake affairs and the investigation itself. These reports are false."

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