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#1
06-24-2007, 01:44 PM
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Plan of attack with Mid Pair in Blind Battle?
Villian is 41/26/2 over 175 hands
PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (9 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero? 
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#2
06-24-2007, 02:02 PM
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Re: Plan of attack with Mid Pair in Blind Battle?
Seems to be a wa/wb spot. I c/c down usually...sometimes finding a fold if two broadway cards hit and hes still firing.
Bet/Call down is prob ok too. Edit- Bet if he starts checking.
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#3
06-24-2007, 06:26 PM
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Re: Plan of attack with Mid Pair in Blind Battle?
I almost always c/r the flop against this guy.
I would never donk the flop.
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#4
06-24-2007, 07:53 PM
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Re: Plan of attack with Mid Pair in Blind Battle?
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I almost always c/r the flop against this guy. I would never donk the flop. [/ QUOTE ] And Im assuming call down if he three bets? What if he just calls...and raises a blank turn.
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#5
06-24-2007, 10:54 PM
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Re: Plan of attack with Mid Pair in Blind Battle?
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I almost always c/r the flop against this guy. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Seems like a super good time to let this guy keep the lead. I like passivity here a lot.
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#6
06-25-2007, 12:57 AM
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Re: Plan of attack with Mid Pair in Blind Battle?
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Why? Seems like a super good time to let this guy keep the lead. [/ QUOTE ] He will bet the flop 100% of the time, and we have an equity edge. I don't think we can assume that this type of player will 3 barrel off with total trash all the time if we tend to play our pairs passively against him. He will pick up on it, and start checking behind turn and/or rivers with UI Ax hands he would pay off with. I think tending to is less exploitable than tending to c/c. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong.
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#7
06-25-2007, 05:21 AM
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Re: Plan of attack with Mid Pair in Blind Battle?
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[ QUOTE ] Why? Seems like a super good time to let this guy keep the lead. [/ QUOTE ] He will bet the flop 100% of the time, and we have an equity edge. I don't think we can assume that this type of player will 3 barrel off with total trash all the time if we tend to play our pairs passively against him. He will pick up on it, and start checking behind turn and/or rivers with UI Ax hands he would pay off with. I think tending to is less exploitable than tending to c/c. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah people need to quit assuming that their opponents are total jackasses that will autobet every street without thinking. You have a very nice hand with MPTK, the backdoor nut flush draw, and reverse domination against his Ax hands, and the T is a little bit too low to hit a large portion of his preflop capping range. I think this almost always a check-raise, with occasional exceptions made for balancing.
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#8
06-25-2007, 08:07 AM
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Re: Plan of attack with Mid Pair in Blind Battle?
I like a lead. This type of player will raise the flop almost 100%. Especially when the flop has obvious draws that we might be donking. c/c turn unimproved and bet/call river works fine against a special kind of donk, but usually c/c river.
By c/r-ing we're allowing him to play almost perfectly vs us. He calls flop correctly, unless he has AK/AQ/AJ, because we priced him in by bloating the pot, then folds ui on the turn or raises our bet if he has us beat. Another thing is that when we improve our strength on the turn by hitting an A or 7 we get a c/r in for a big bet. [ QUOTE ] people need to quit assuming that their opponents are total jackasses that will autobet every street without thinking [ QUOTE ] Villian is 41/26/2 [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] But these guys usually are jackasses that will autobet every street.
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#9
06-25-2007, 10:01 AM
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Re: Plan of attack with Mid Pair in Blind Battle?
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I like a lead. This type of player will raise the flop almost 100%. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] By c/r-ing we're allowing him to play almost perfectly vs us...then folds ui on the turn or raises our bet if he has us beat. [/ QUOTE ] Your model of this opponent strikes me as a tad inconsistent.
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#10
06-25-2007, 10:26 AM
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Re: Plan of attack with Mid Pair in Blind Battle?
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[ QUOTE ] I like a lead. This type of player will raise the flop almost 100%. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] By c/r-ing we're allowing him to play almost perfectly vs us...then folds ui on the turn or raises our bet if he has us beat. [/ QUOTE ] Your model of this opponent strikes me as a tad inconsistent. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I understand what you mean I just think that if he's the type of overaggro lagtard that are common at these stakes he'll probably just go ahead and 3bet our c/r and then bet the turn. Then we're taking the maximum spew line if he has us beat. Also, if we c/r the turn, he just calls, and then raises our turn bet, are you folding? How bout if the turn is a heart? I think a c/r lets him control the hand (i.e. control how big the pot becomes) and therefore we'll spew more when behind, and win less when ahead.
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