CO raises, SB raises, what does BB need to push

betgo · #1 10-22-2007, 09:46 PM

$100 MTT, about 30% of field left. No strong reads. What do I need to play in the BB?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
(Ante: t25)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3530
UTG+1: t6760
MP1: t6685
MP2: t15565
MP3: t12210
CO: t9680
Button: t8280
SB: t10166
Hero: t7345

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with xxx
5 folds, CO raises to t1200, Button folds, SB raises to t4000, Hero ???

Ben86 · #2 10-22-2007, 09:58 PM

id shove like 77+ and AQ+. I don't have any math though its just feel.

luckychewy · #3 10-22-2007, 10:00 PM

readless, tt+ ak.

Acein8ter · #4 10-22-2007, 10:18 PM

Vs CO's 3xbb and SB's 10xbb raise, I'd say QQ+ and AK. SB is putting 40% of his stack in and it would be 60%+ of yours...

d2themfi · #5 10-22-2007, 11:31 PM

I like JJ, AK+

flyingmoose · #6 10-23-2007, 12:41 AM

JJ+, AK -- 1010 is close.

zizazziza · #7 10-23-2007, 01:24 AM

the big issue is that sb HAS to call your ai if you shove. I need JJ+, AQs+ ... unless its like DJK in the sb which then you need Q high

ZJ123 · #8 10-23-2007, 01:26 AM

TT is a shove for sure.

Ben86 · #9 10-23-2007, 02:09 AM

shocked by the responses.. at first i was thinking 99+ AQ, and i lowered it to 77. If we change him from an unknown to "we know hes solid" does our range like triple?

zizazziza · #10 10-23-2007, 02:19 AM

"solid" doesnt really mean much. Are you trying to say that hes a good TAG? The issue is that the sb has put in over 50% of your effective stack in so if he is "solid" then you need a good enough hand that will be ahead of his calling range (which is any 2)