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Old 10-09-2007, 04:11 AM
viper930 viper930 is offline
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Default Re: Value Bluffing with double stacks

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oh i forgot the goal of poker is to know where you are "at". give me a [censored] break.

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wait...it isnt?
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: Value Bluffing with double stacks

dfw your advice in this thread was pretty awful
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:19 AM
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If that river bet could talk he'd say "oh god im so scared of his calls and now this ace comes, I have no idea what my opp has, please please please fold"
lol
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:23 AM
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If that river bet could talk he'd say "oh god im so scared of his calls and now this ace comes, I have no idea what my opp has, please please please fold"
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in my mind im vb'ing against JJ quite often here.

a range for villain if you please, otherwise gtfo
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:26 AM
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in my mind im vb'ing against JJ quite often here.

a range for villain if you please, otherwise gtfo

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any idea how light he's calling your 3bet

edit: never mind, misread his pfr stat
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: Value Bluffing with double stacks

I like it. I think his range is pretty much qq-jj. I don't think he is calling with jacks though.
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: Value Bluffing with double stacks

I don't have a range for you carnival, but I think you get called by a better hand more often then JJ calls you here IMO.
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:58 AM
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i don't know how you guys think it is jj. what does villain put him on? 88? seriously. jj raises that flop and folds turn like 100% of the time. especially against a guy like that.

and to deaders. all you say is he should fold kk. that is not even advice.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:01 AM
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Default Re: Value Bluffing with double stacks

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If that river bet could talk he'd say "oh god im so scared of his calls and now this ace comes, I have no idea what my opp has, please please please fold"
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in my mind im vb'ing against JJ quite often here.

a range for villain if you please, otherwise gtfo

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Well his range is so much wider than only JJ and you dont beat anything from his range except for JJ. Plus 99% of the time he's not calling your river push on a flush board + ace on the river because he beats exactly NOTHING, not even TT or 99.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:03 AM
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also i forgot to say that this hand was played horribly from start to finish. you will never know where you at if you just keep hammering the board like that.

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oh i forgot the goal of poker is to know where you are "at". give me a [censored] break.

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you obviously don't want help if you are replying to that post instead of the post where i gave you my 2cents. if you can't take criticizm then you shouldn't be playing. you will never learn.

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i learn quite a bit when solid players analyze the range of my opponents and my range and come up with real reasons for my play. Anyone who tells me to halfpot the turn to find out where im at is a waste of time. oh and HU for rolls.

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how can anyone give you a range when all you give is stats. you give no other info about the player. you will never get your range either.
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