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Old 02-07-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

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Old 02-07-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

2 explanations I can think of.

1. Running bad

2. The insurgants got a hold of some surface to air missiles. I recall hearing a report that the insurgants made a video of one of one of the downings. On the video, there was a sound of a missle being launched.
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:03 PM
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2. The insurgants got a hold of some surface to air missiles. I recall hearing a report that the insurgants made a video of one of one of the downings. On the video, there was a sound of a missle being launched.

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I think this is the case. Who do you think supplied the missles and what should we do about it?

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Old 02-07-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

Did this start as a clever ruse to advocate declaring war on Iran?
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:33 PM
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Did this start as a clever ruse to advocate declaring war on Iran?

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If Iran is supplying these weapons what do you think we should do about it?

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Old 02-07-2007, 05:43 PM
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Did this start as a clever ruse to advocate declaring war on Iran?

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If Iran is supplying these weapons what do you think we should do about it?

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So the answer was yes.
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Why are we losing all these choppers in Iraq?

Well seeing as how this chopper went down in Anbar province, I suggest we invade Iraq!
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:36 PM
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I think this is the case. Who do you think supplied the missles and what should we do about it?


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Russian made missles sold to Iran.
Iran gives the missles to the insurgents.

What to do?
Cripple the Iranian economy by bombing their oil infrastructure. Light their oil fields up like a birthday cake.

Pros:
No oil. No money. No money to finance Shia insurgents in Iraq.
If we get lucky, the Iranian govt may fall.
No money to finance their nuclear program.
No money to finance Hezbollah in Lebanon...

Cons:
Price of gas goes up a $1 per gallon.
We may need to bomb their fields again assuming they can attract foreign investment to replace their destroyed oil drilling equipment...

Iran has a history of screwing foreign investors to if we do bomb Iran's oil industry, the the Russians may be the only takers to invest in new oil equipment. After 6 months we then we bomb their newly repair oil infrastructure. Russians take a big financial loss and walk back to Moscow with empty pockets. Iran gets on their knees and begs USA to stop promising they will be good. The Shia insurgents lose their sugar daddy and so the USA can concentrate on the Sunni insurgents...
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: What to do? Easy....

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Cripple the Iranian economy by bombing their oil infrastructure. Light their oil fields up like a birthday cake.

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AWESOME idea.

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Iran has a history of screwing foreign investors to if we do bomb Iran's oil industry, the the Russians may be the only takers to invest in new oil equipment. After 6 months we then we bomb their newly repair oil infrastructure. Russians take a big financial loss and walk back to Moscow with empty pockets. Iran gets on their knees and begs USA to stop promising they will be good.

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yep, both the Iranians and the Russians will totally take this lying down. It won't have any averse affects on regional stability or our ability to get energy out of the M.E.

Did you by any chance also draft the plan where the Iraqis welcome us with open arms?
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Old 02-07-2007, 07:40 PM
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First let me compliment you for making an intelligent post as oppose to just saying I'm wrong, calling me a name, and then running off into cyberspace. You have made a post with some substance....

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yep, both the Iranians and the Russians will totally take this lying down. It won't have any averse affects on regional stability or our ability to get energy out of the M.E.

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I did not advocate attacking the Russians so I don't know why you mentioned them. As for the Iranians they are a third rate power and the USA is a supper power. Once we bomb the Iranian oil fields and their economy is crippled...what can they do? Attack us militarily? Don't make me laugh.....

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It won't have any averse affects on regional stability or our ability to get energy out of the M.E.


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Iran could try to attack oil tankers in the Persian Gulf. They tried this during the Iran-Iraq War because countries like Kuwait and Saudi-Arabia were giving money to Iraq. Luckily we had a real man as president (Ronald Reagan) and the USA sank half the Iranian navy in one day. Iran backed down.... Funny how gunboat diplomacy when properly applied workds very well...
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Once the bombs start flying, Iran will crumple like a cheap suit like they did when Reagan was president.

The Sunnis of the muslim world are alarmed at Iran's power. Kuwait, Saudia-Arabia, and others would be happy to see Iran get smacked down by the USA....

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Did you by any chance also draft the plan where the Iraqis welcome us with open arms?

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I was for the war in Iraq but I have been dismayed by incompetance of occupation. But that is a completely different subject....
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