100NL AA in BB

sobos · #1 08-09-2007, 11:30 AM

100NL Bodog, 9-handed. No reads. 4 limpers and I have A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the BB. I raise to 10. MP calls and everyone else folds. Flop is 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I bet $17 into a $25 pot. MP minraises. Hero? Is this Jx enough to stack off here?

Renton · #2 08-09-2007, 12:06 PM

pretty terrible spot.

I'd fold it.

If you can't fold it, then c/rai the turn. Do NOT call and c/f the turn, and do NOT 3bet all in.

Renton · #3 08-09-2007, 12:06 PM

100bb stacks?

sobos · #4 08-09-2007, 12:08 PM

yes, i forgot stack sizes (the most important thing about this hand). With this hand, the effective stacks were 100BB. Can we also discuss this if it were 200BB effective stacks....

CopTHIS · #5 08-09-2007, 12:10 PM

why do you think that 3-betting the flop is so bad?

Renton · #6 08-09-2007, 12:12 PM

because calling and c/r turn depends on making most of its money from bluffs, which obv a 3bet allin fails to do.

sobos · #7 08-09-2007, 12:15 PM

great point....but, you're not at all worried about 9T?

CazicT · #8 08-09-2007, 12:15 PM

Assuming effective stacks are $100, i'd probably 3 bet all-in without a read on the opponent.

It could be just top pair jack. Of course it could be a set too. But I think since we are pretty much committed to this hand i'd just push it in now in case he's fooling around with some straight draw.

If the stacks were a little deeper I could see slowing down because we wouldn't be committed.

The board isn't that threating, so I could see maybe calling and leading turn, but I don't think I want to check the turn and let him decide if he wants to take a free card.

Maybe i'm being too paranoid about protecting since the board isn't all drawy, but these were my initial thoughts.

CopTHIS · #9 08-09-2007, 12:18 PM

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because calling and c/r turn depends on making most of its money from bluffs, which obv a 3bet allin fails to do.

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How often do you think villian is bluffing here? About 5%? He looks to be a fish and will call with any made hand, and he almost always has a made hand. Plenty of times he will check behind on the turn anyway and may get away depending on what cards come up.

sobos · #10 08-09-2007, 12:28 PM

On second thought, I have to agree with Cop...it's always best to get it in early against a fish. But, I have no read on this guy and this really looks like a textbook set-mine. Is pushing +EV?