25/50 TT OTB vs Grimstarr

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25/50 on FTP 5 handed, 8.8k effective

grim's been reraising me a good deal, and im handling it ok, standard short handed aggro game.

folds to my button i pot TT, grim in BB reraises over the pot to 725.
i call (?)

flop 952r grim bets 1250, i call (?)

turn 2 grim checks i check (?)

river A grim bets 2300 into 3975, i fold (?)

comments on all streets appreciated

[tjohnsonr10]

I am not high stakes or anything, but if you are calling flop and think you are good why are you shutting down when the A comes? If you think he has A high when you call flop why are you not rr or betting turn?

[SuperPokerJedi]

Grim's never gonna be giving you an easy time on the R so going for a check-down on the T sucks imo. You need to decide whether you think you're ahead and raise the Flop or the Turn.

[Christophers]

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Grim's never gonna be giving you an easy time on the R so going for a check-down on the T sucks imo. You need to decide whether you think you're ahead and raise the Flop or the Turn.

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I think this is awful advice, particularly raising the flop.

[Lefort]

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Grim's never gonna be giving you an easy time on the R so going for a check-down on the T sucks imo. You need to decide whether you think you're ahead and raise the Flop or the Turn.

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That's the precise mindset that makes 3betting frequently a very profitable strategy in online poker.

[bigt439]

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Grim's never gonna be giving you an easy time on the R so going for a check-down on the T sucks imo. You need to decide whether you think you're ahead and raise the Flop or the Turn.

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That's the precise mindset that makes 3betting frequently a very profitable strategy in online poker.

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haha this is exactly what we were talking about the other day...

as far as the hand goes i like the turn check because betting almost entirely serves to protect your hand and doesn't do a great job of getting money from worse hands (in fact checking and betting / calling river does this better) and i think the spot it can put us in and our ability to make up some lost equity on the river outweighs the benefit of protecting against what is something like a 5 outer on average or a better hand. I guess alot of this depends on what grim check calls on the turn though... if he can do it with like 33 then this makes a bet much more appealing, obviously. However another problem is that we can get outplayed on the river and this is a pretty bad river for exactly that. It's a tough river decision... one that's really dependent on his river tendencies. If he can only really make this bet with an ace or better I think we've got to call, but if he can v-bet TT-KK i think its very hard to. But like I said, I don't know grim well enough to really say. Even if you make the wrong decision on the river, it's not likely to be particularly -ev, because i think its such a close spot. Although that's kind of a copout.

[Lefort]

Thats the way I play it... but I'd feel weird about it and probably ask for suggestions from people.

The problem is that I think grimm's range is massive after his river bet and that makes it a very difficult job of trying to figure out where your hand lines up against it. I mean he could conceivably take this line with any of the hands that he's 3betting PF...

[AZK]

bet turn?

[KRANTZ]

looks ok to me

[Lefort]

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bet turn?

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I'm assuming you mean a b/f. Problem with that is without 4betting preflop and with almost 200bb stacks I think HERO has AA/KK not very often at all making his hand somewhat face-up, and easy for VILLAIN to cr-bluff the turn with overs, or anything for that matter..