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#15
09-11-2006, 02:22 AM
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Re: AKs, facing a raise, and a push
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Let's see, i get advice from a) Mike the Mouth or b) nath on 2+2 which is +Ev so hard to choose... [/ QUOTE ] if you are getting direct advice from Matusow on your hands - then yes, by all means, go with Matusow. 
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#16
09-11-2006, 02:27 AM
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Re: AKs, facing a raise, and a push
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Let's see, i get advice from a) Mike the Mouth or b) nath on 2+2 which is +Ev so hard to choose... [/ QUOTE ] I know you meant this as an insult, which is why it's so funny. If you don't want the advice, [censored] off. I've got enough idiots hating on me for no good reason already.
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#17
09-11-2006, 02:31 AM
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Re: AKs, facing a raise, and a push
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[ QUOTE ] Let's see, i get advice from a) Mike the Mouth or b) nath on 2+2 which is +Ev so hard to choose... [/ QUOTE ] I know you meant this as an insult, which is why it's so funny. If you don't want the advice, [censored] off. I've got enough idiots hating on me for no good reason already. [/ QUOTE ] I've never asked you for advice. I tried to help OP and you felt it was an opportunity to take a swipe at MM. Maybe the haters aren't the idiots.
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#18
09-11-2006, 02:44 AM
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Re: AKs, facing a raise, and a push
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[ QUOTE ] Live Tournament at the Venetian. Hero has 17,000 chips. Average stack is about 13,000. Blinds are now 300/600 with a 50 chip ante. We are now 9 handed, field of about 70, with 48 or so left. Fairly early still UTG+2 is fairly loose and aggressive. He has been donking off a lot of chips. MP2 is a slightly older asian man, who has been quiet, but seems newer to the game of poker. UTG+2 has about 14,000 chips, MP2 has roughly the same Preflop: Hero has A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the SB 2 folds, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to 1,200</font>, 1 fold, <font color="red">MP2 raises all-in</font>, folded to hero, Hero folds, and BB folds, as does UTG+2 Does anyone call this? I could see MP2 making this play with AQs, but not that likely. AA or KK is a possiblity as well and with a live UTG+2 still to act as well as the sb, I fold this. Given the size of the bet and the pot, I think this is a fold. Anyone disagree? [/ QUOTE ] Mike Matusow's tip: "You never put a chip in with ace-king when you are the third one into a raised pot. Never. Ever. Ever. Never." link [/ QUOTE ] This is absolutely horrible advice. In the OP, I think I call. Personally, I think you've put MP on an overly tight range, but you were there and I wasn't. Against JJ+/AQ+, AKs is a 52% favorite. Factor in dead money from antes and UTG's raise (whom I would expect to fold against two all-ins for most of his chips, especially when he's liable to open a wide range) and you're in pretty good shape. Sometimes UTG comes along with a monster, but I think if you classify him as slightly loose and aggressive then he's usually going to fold and keep his fairly healthy stack. That said, I think it's still pretty close and a fold isn't too bad, especially if you have been able to get chips without playing big pots previously.
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#19
09-11-2006, 02:45 AM
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Re: AKs, facing a raise, and a push
You chose to interpret it as a swipe, not me. And you don't know [censored] about me or Matusow anyway. You got a hardon for defending him against imaginary attacks, that's fine, but [censored] leave me out of it. I do too goddamn much around here to get the [censored] from people I've been getting lately.
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#20
09-11-2006, 02:52 AM
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Re: AKs, facing a raise, and a push
i can't believe this is the hand that spurred that "low quality advice" post. hint: this is not a difficult hand!
there are basically two questions: would the guy do this with AQ? would he do it with AA/KK? i'm inclined to think the answer to both of these is no. this is arguable, but you were there. make a decision. IMO this is probably 77-JJ like 90% of the time, but anything is possible. if his range includes AQ it's an obvious call. if it consists of only AA/KK it's an obvious fold. IMO the fact that it's possible UTG+2 picked up a hand here makes it break towards a fold, given the very slim +cEV edge we have against MP2s range (because of the overlay).
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