Stars 16 QQ Bubble

[LeadbellyDan]

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It's a shove. Period.

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My mistake. I guess I was trying to actually think about why (whether) we are justified in pushing here but of course I should have gone with my gut instinct. What was I thinking? Question Mark. Period.

[Schmitty 87]

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It's a shove. Period.

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My mistake. I guess I was trying to actually think about why (whether) we are justified in pushing here but of course I should have gone with my gut instinct. What was I thinking? Question Mark. Period.

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We have 15 bbs, 15% of our stack already in the pot, and QQ vs. a guy who is likely 3-betting a range that we beat. Hence the easy shove.

[Kazimyrch]

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If he has KK/AA just write a note.

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I agree that you should shove this. However, I don't see the point of taking a note if someone reraises you with KK/AA.

[Brett D]

So if you have KK instead of QQ would you consider folding too? Because I think in this situation theres very little difference between QQ and KK here.

[eurythmech]

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If he has KK/AA just write a note.

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I agree that you should shove this. However, I don't see the point of taking a note if someone reraises you with KK/AA.

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Seeing AA or KK makes it less probable that AT or 99 or whatever is in his range.

Also, the guy who said QQ~KK here is retarded.

[Shortcorner]

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So if you have KK instead of QQ would you consider folding too? Because I think in this situation theres very little difference between QQ and KK here.

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KK is a vast improvement over QQ, you are a serious favorite agains his range, even if he is very tight.

Againts TT+,AKs,AKo, QQ is flipping, but KK your are almost 2/1. Thats being very, very tight.

[Burcak]

I think the real question is whether or not the fact that he didn't move in himself makes his range tighter, looser, or same.

If he moved all in, I think it was an easy call.

The people who go "easy shove" etc. are you considering whether or not his range is tighter than normal when he makes a small raise?

Note that given my poker knowledge atm I can't fold this. But maybe I am wrong and the small reraise is a tell?

[eurythmech]

Yeah, the reraise should typically make his range tighter than would a push.

[microbet]

"Villain has made no attempt thus far to pwn the bubble" is a read.

I'm not going to do the math here, but someone should. This should be close. I'm thinking with:

1. You are getting some pot odds with the money already in.

2. Your read isn't that strong - he might have just had some really bad cards

3. BTN isn't that short

It'll be a push. I think JJ and AKs might be a fold and TT or AKo shouldn't be too hard of a fold.

But, it's been a while since I've been playing these things.

[AMT]

LBD,

there isnt too much of a shorty here.

Go all in. itd be closer if a short stack was actually short or you were deeper or you had JJ or we had a read that he was actually real tight.