Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Micro Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-01-2007, 04:10 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 5,886
Default NL50: River bluff card and I take it.

Villain is 29/11/1.0 over 70ish hands.
Villain calls too much on the river too much to small/mediumish bets with TP. He's not very aggressive, so I would not think he's betting his FD on the turn. Calling my flop c-bet and then potting the turn makes me think he really likes his ace (AK or better).
Note effective stacks are 160 BBs.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($129.70)
MP ($74.70)
CO ($79.05)
Button ($56.10)
SB ($30.15)
BB ($13.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, CO calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $11</font>, Hero calls $11.

River: ($33.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $113.2 (All-In)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-01-2007, 04:12 PM
Micro Donk Micro Donk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,736
Default Re: NL50: River bluff card and I take it.

i dont like trying to make people fold 2 pair at places like 50NL, cause "omg its 2 pair i cant fold"
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-01-2007, 04:24 PM
Phildo Phildo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 295
Default Re: NL50: River bluff card and I take it.

NM
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-01-2007, 04:28 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,007
Default Re: NL50: River bluff card and I take it.

really bad. Yeah really bad. The fact you have an A in my mind makes it slightly more likely he has a monster instead of just AK.

just from a pure bet size perspective I don't like it. He has to be folding a huge percentage of his range to be turning a profit. I think even if he folds AK this could be -EV.

Especially if he only bets turn with AQ+ or even AK+. Then yeah maybe he folds AK but he's still gunna call with a set.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-01-2007, 04:32 PM
kurto kurto is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: in your heart
Posts: 6,777
Default Re: NL50: River bluff card and I take it.

This is player specific. Mostly I don't like it. Because if you really wanted value why would you overbet like that? I call these bets a lot because it feels like you want me to fold.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-01-2007, 04:34 PM
creamfillin creamfillin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SI. NY
Posts: 1,751
Default Re: NL50: River bluff card and I take it.

Villain calls too much on the river; so let's bluff the river.

Does not compute.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-01-2007, 04:37 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,007
Default Re: NL50: River bluff card and I take it.

I put AK into stove vs AQ/AJ/all sets (no two pairs, which is probably wrong). Humm maybe I should add A10. Anyhow with the 1st range its 62/38. Meaning you'll get him to fold 62% of the time if he folds AK/AQ and lower. Take out AJ and its about 50/50.

I think your offering him to call $50 to win 80, so thats 8:5 or 1.6:1. So 1/2.6=38.5%. Lol wow its about 0 EV if your correct and he bets turn with AQ/AK but folds both on the river.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-01-2007, 04:55 PM
traz traz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sleeping on stacks
Posts: 19,775
Default Re: NL50: River bluff card and I take it.

what're you trying to fold out here?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-01-2007, 05:50 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 5,886
Default Re: NL50: River bluff card and I take it.

Just so we're clear here, this is precisely how I play KdQd, because we're deeper than norm. If villain has 2 pair it's AT, A7, A5, 75. No way I run this with stacks more shallow than current situation, and even here it might be thin.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-01-2007, 07:01 PM
kaz2107 kaz2107 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hating CO pro sports atm
Posts: 2,943
Default Re: NL50: River bluff card and I take it.

ewww yuck. the reason i dislike this is because i actually think we r like 50/50 on his range. that being said i like makin it like 25 or sumtin and then folding to a shove.

i just think turning our hand into a bluff here is no good. wut is the point??? there r only a few hands that he has that r ahead of u and half of them or so dont fold n e wayz. he calls with a flush obv and prolly with some sets.

meh i just think this is fps too much and in an unnesissary spot
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.