Stalling for tv time is really bad for poker

[SNOWBALL]

It's unfair to other players, whether they are winners or losers. Winners end up seeing less hands and winning less. Losers want to PLAY PLAY PLAY and not wait. This is especially important to them if they are stuck badly.

Pros might feel a pressure to respond to others stalling by using their own stalling. The reason is that they will end up with a low % of tv time if they don't stall. So, with everyone stalling equally, all pros should end up with the same amount of tv time. Interestingly enough, this is the exact same result as NO ONE stalling.

So, cooperative game theory says no one should stall for tv time. Who can make this happen? Stalling is bad for everyone in the long run.
It's become bad for me too, because players in live casinos tend to unconsciously copy what they see on tv, and I see a lot of players stalling all the time in routine situations.

[Starfish]

Maybe some kind of electric device could zap those who stall for more than 30 seconds. First friendly warning zap, then 5 seconds and turn up the amps. Then it would be more like playing online, only missing the multitabling. Who's first to implement this in tv show?

[supafrey]

[ QUOTE ]
cooperative game theory

[/ QUOTE ]

Oxymoron, DUCY?

[EWS87]

there should be a 30 second clock for all decisions...each player gets one 2 minute extension per round

its a little more tricky in cash games as sometimes people do need to make difficult decisions

[jogsxyz]

Virtually every final table player is capable of multi-tabling and playing over 200 hands per hour. Yet most final tables struggle to play 25 hands per hour. Still the onus is on the organizers to speed up the game. All FTs are shown well after the event is played. Edit out the tanks.
Preflop facing no action, 10 seconds is plenty long. Strict enforcement. Players must announce the size of the raise within 10 seconds else all raises are minimum. When facing action give them 20 seconds. Postflop give them 20 seconds.

[Taso]

I'm against any automatic clock restrictions. If needed, players can call the clock. The rest of this stuff is bad for poker.

[Flopz]

[ QUOTE ]
All FTs are shown well after the event is played. Edit out the tanks.

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly.

I'm no fan of social engineering/big brother/censorship/etc..., but if the public doesn't see it, they won't immitate it.

It'll take a while, but once people start picking up on the fact that stalling tactics won't get them anywhere, they won't abuse it.

[JDesab]

[ QUOTE ]
Virtually every final table player is capable of multi-tabling and playing over 200 hands per hour.

[/ QUOTE ]

online poker world is an offchute of the real live poker world

don't try to bring your bastardized version to the live game.

any player at the table can call clock on anyone else.

the ME FT did more like 20 hands per hour. have you heard any of the participants complaining that too much time was taken? if not .. what the hell do you care!?

[Gildwulf]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
cooperative game theory

[/ QUOTE ]

Oxymoron, DUCY?

[/ QUOTE ]

no, DUCY?

[jogsxyz]

[ QUOTE ]
cooperative game theory

[/ QUOTE ]

During the bubble there could be cooperative game theory.
Last table to finish gets penalized one BB per player.