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Old 10-10-2007, 03:04 AM
macgyverlol macgyverlol is offline
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Default 50nl Extracting max value from a short(er) stack w/ abs nuts

I'm a little drunk/high whilst posting this, so sorry, but I'm trying to think outside the box a little here.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $34.90
BB: $57.25
UTG: $108.65
MP: $53.05
Hero (CO): $47.75
BTN: $99.45

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3, BB folds

Turn: ($12) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $5.50</font>
Hero...

What course of action do you take here to maximize the chances of getting the rest of his stack? Smooth call, raise the river? Raise 3x and hope he shoves?
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:13 AM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: 50nl Extracting max value from a short(er) stack w/ abs nuts

Bet bigger on the flop....like 4.25 or more.


I think just callin the turn is best as that Q will scare a lot of A's If you just call the pot and remaining stacks will be about even and if he bets again on river he'll probably feel committed when you shove.
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:15 AM
vixticator vixticator is offline
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Default Re: 50nl Extracting max value from a short(er) stack w/ abs nuts

Interesting. If you call the pot will be $23. He only has $25 left. Based on his turn donk bet I expect him to lead river. He will commit himself IMO. May even induce him to shove whole stack. It's key that you have position. If he checks you can still get in a nice value bet and based on turn lead I imagine it's being called. No reason to raise here at all.
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:17 AM
CyberianBull CyberianBull is offline
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Default Re: 50nl Extracting max value from a short(er) stack w/ abs nuts

I usually smooth call this and shove river. Why scare him off on the turn - you have position and seems to like his hand. He probably has AK, AJ, A10, sometimes 22 (but i dont see him betting his full house on turn). If he bets anything sizable on the river he'll be pot committed, so easy money. However, I think he will check with his Ax for a cheap showdown, so i would put a value bet in 2/3 pot maybe... sometimes I shove, but that's villain-dependent.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: 50nl Extracting max value from a short(er) stack w/ abs nuts

I just call on the turn then shove the river if he leads.
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