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#11
09-03-2007, 07:10 PM
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Re: I literally feel sick on the flop
I obviously called btw, although didn't like it very much...
Can all the people that advocate shoving the flop please ellaborate why? This seems to me like a bad line on this flop actually. 
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#12
09-03-2007, 07:13 PM
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Re: I literally feel sick on the flop
If you're 95% sure his range on the flop is JJ+/AK then his range on the turn is obviously AK/KK way more than 66% of the time and you obviously can't call - I dont understand what everyone else is on about.
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#13
09-03-2007, 07:18 PM
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Re: I literally feel sick on the flop
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I obviously called btw, although didn't like it very much... Can all the people that advocate shoving the flop please ellaborate why? This seems to me like a bad line on this flop actually. [/ QUOTE ] What the hell do you think he has here? If he called your large 4bet with AK he is obviously terrible and you would be way ahead of his range anyways. You should just shove the flop since you're going to stack off to AK no matter what, you might as well shove and hope QQ/JJ/TT call. Against QQ-TT you want to shove the flop before any scare cards hit, and if they call preflop they're almost always calling the flop. As played it's an obvious call.
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#14
09-03-2007, 07:27 PM
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Re: I literally feel sick on the flop
How many scare cards can there be?
Only 2 aces left in the deck, 2 kings are already there...and another one won't be a scare card at all. If he has QQ, he has 2 outs and almost no scare cards that could come out, except the 2 remaining Aces.If he has JJ, Q is the only scare card. He is too tight to call with TT and AQs preflop. So, i still stand by my check on the flop.I doubt JJ-QQ calls the flop, but it might shove the turn... So, as i am writing, i am convincing myself more and more, than indeed, after checking the flop, i cannot fold.
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