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Old 12-01-2007, 11:44 PM
Reefypoopoo Reefypoopoo is offline
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Default Re: 50nl: 3bet pot with 98s

we dont always have to bet, and no he does not always fold or have to fold an underpair. Sometimes I'll use bet / push line. Sometimes I'll check and then bet turn or raise turn once in awhile. As long as you do this with AQ type hands as well. We dont ALWAYS have to put in all the chips in the middle here.
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: 3bet pot with 98s

pf is pretty aggro vs a UTG 15% pfrer but tbh it prob is +EV, it's just most people don't bother with it down here.

agree that if you bet F and T he prob has to fold an underpair most of the time. but you also stack yourself vs an ace a lot too, which is about 50% of his range (17 combos including AA). petty marginal imo.
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: 50nl: 3bet pot with 98s

I dont mind pf especially if he has been active. I dont like betting the turn though. Like bozzer said, you will run into an ace fairly often. However, I will go even further. Im not convinced that youre folding out an underpair often enough either. A stubborn JJ/QQ could show up often enough also to make this a very bad move.
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: 50nl: 3bet pot with 98s

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pf is pretty aggro vs a UTG 15% pfrer but tbh it prob is +EV, it's just most people don't bother with it down here.

agree that if you bet F and T he prob has to fold an underpair most of the time. but you also stack yourself vs an ace a lot too, which is about 50% of his range (17 combos including AA). petty marginal imo.

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Bozzer, i think he has more PP combos than you think. I count around 40 cause ppl love to set mine, right?

Basically i have no clue how often a TAG @ 50nl folds underpairs [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: 50nl: 3bet pot with 98s

if you bet 10bb or CRAI he have something like 60% FE(thats if he calls only with 55+,and A/10+ and d0nt call with flush draw)
When you push flop vs. that range you have -ev(-7.4bb,if you wanna know how much)
When you bet 10bb on that flop your ev is +5.8bb on that play but if he calls your flop c-bet(and i think he calls with flush draws 2),you commited 2 2nd burrell on the turn

This is why i asked b4,how is hes turn play.Cause i think delayed bluff on the turn its you rbest option here
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:35 AM
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if you bet 10bb or CRAI he have something like 60% FE(thats if he calls only with 55+,and A/10+ and d0nt call with flush draw)
When you push flop vs. that range you have -ev(-7.4bb,if you wanna know how much)
When you bet 10bb on that flop your ev is +5.8bb on that play but if he calls your flop c-bet(and i think he calls with flush draws 2),you commited 2 2nd burrell on the turn

This is why i asked b4,how is hes turn play.Cause i think delayed bluff on the turn its you rbest option here

[/ QUOTE ]O RLY?

Gotta double barrel IMO.
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: 50nl: 3bet pot with 98s

yeah i dont know what his flop/turn stats are
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