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Old 02-01-2007, 05:06 AM
redrooski24 redrooski24 is offline
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Default I hate flopping mediore hands...

Villain is a big LAG and the reason I'm at the table, 44/28/3. Against even slightly loose players I'm probably mucking on the flop, but what's your plan with this guy?

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Button ($376)
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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, BB calls $11.

Flop: ($30) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $84</font>
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:08 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: I hate flopping mediore hands...

What does he think of you? Is he any good, or just a LAGtard?
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:13 AM
redrooski24 redrooski24 is offline
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Default Re: I hate flopping mediore hands...

He probably sees me as semi LAG(28/23ish) but I can't remember any specific history with him other than he loves to bluff call.
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: I hate flopping mediore hands...

I sometimes just call and bet/fold the turn.
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: I hate flopping mediore hands...

you have top pair vs a lag in a blind vs blind. Don't fold. Depending if he's a lag capable of bluffing 3 streets I'd probably either call down or fake block the river and call a push.
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Old 02-01-2007, 07:06 AM
los_toros los_toros is offline
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Default Re: I hate flopping mediore hands...

Who was this hand against?
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Old 02-01-2007, 07:14 AM
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Default Re: I hate flopping mediore hands...

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I sometimes just call and bet/fold the turn.

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this is pretty bad. if he's as laggy as you say, then I'd check/call turn and river as well.
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Old 02-01-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: I hate flopping mediore hands...

I hate this raise OOP.

Flop TPNK against a LAG, you should be looking to keep the pot small.

I recommend you try to get a seat change too. If you double up he has you way covered and has position 2/3 hands. Unless he is a donkey, he should be happier with the seating arrangement than you.
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Old 02-01-2007, 04:57 PM
redrooski24 redrooski24 is offline
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Default Re: I hate flopping mediore hands...

So I called the flop raise, now do you call the push? I don't know if he would push this hard with a KJish type hand and KQ/AK are reraising me pf unless he tried to get crafty with them but like I said I don't have a good read on his style other than he's really LAG.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($2787.60)
Button ($376)
Hero ($389.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, BB calls $11.

Flop: ($30) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $84</font>, Hero calls $60.

Turn: ($198) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2688.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero??
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Old 02-01-2007, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: I hate flopping mediore hands...

this is really a bad raise unless you snap call this turn.
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