10NL QQ overpair, help

[wudabum]

unknown villain
against an unknown, do we always fold or do we push?
what kind of reads do we need to decide our course of action? thanks



Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $17.75
BB: $10.95
UTG: $17.00
CO: $10.10
Hero (BTN): $9.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO raises to $0.35, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.65) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80

Turn: ($6.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO bets $6.25, Hero ???

[whyzze]

raise the flop. You should be willing to get it all in there.

as played put it in on the turn

[ApeAttack]

Usually a player will raise again preflop with AA or KK. This feels like AJ, KJ, a bluff, or a set. You are either way ahead or way behind.

I would raise the flop and be ready to pay off a push.

[bsball8806]

With villain oop, I feel like he'd reraise with AA or KK preflop, instead of smooth calling your 3bet. You are most likely ahead here, this seems like a quick call to me.

this is just about a perfect flop for your hand (eh on the J), so why are you averse to getting it all in before potential scare cards come on turn and river?

[hennnerz]

Raise flop. Call push or get it in on turn.

I think he has 34 on this turn though. Its a hand that fits and tbh I really dont mind folding QQ here to the PSB anyway.

[wudabum]

yea, i usually raise flop, but i dont kno why i didnt this time. my lose rate is getting to me. but i guess if u guys want the results i'll post it in white.


<font color="white"> Turn: ($6.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO bets $6.25, Hero raises all-in to $6.40, CO calls $0.15

River: ($19.05) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $19.05 ($1 Rake)

CO had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Jacks) and WON (+$8.60)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$9.45) </font>

[cabdo]

Why aren't you raising the flop?

His hand range is very wide here, and as played I think you have to make this river call.

[hennnerz]

You mean turn call?

I disagree.

[cabdo]

Oops, yeah I mean turn. What hands besides JJ can you put him on that you don't beat?

[hennnerz]

Look more at what hands can he have that fit the line he takes. I find this process leads me to think that we are behind his range here.

He raises preflop. Calls a raise. Then donk bets the flop. Using this info I believe we can narrow down the range enough to justify a fold.