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Old 08-15-2007, 12:40 AM
fees fees is offline
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Default Biggest Day... ever...

So yesterday I played like 8 donkaments or something instead of cash. I finished like 200th in one of them (2k field) for a 3.5 $ profit (smallest BI tourny all day..) Today.. I was reminded why I never play donkaments and why i always play ring...


So first.. I send this email to FTP: (xpost from ssnl cheese thread)

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Original Message Follows:
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asd!@LK#!@#LOK!@#!K

WILL U PLEASE TURN THE GOD DAMN DOOMSWITCH OFF JESUSADAOK!@#OK!@ EVERY
TIME I DECIDE TO COME PLAY AT FTP THIS AHIDSK!@O#K!@ HAPPENS>>>> I WIN
AT EVERY OTHER SITE,

as
dok12o31k23

ABSOLUTE U-BET PSTARS EVERNAOSDK BODOG... BUT UR SITE IS SO OASDKAS
RIGGED ITS ASODK!O@#K U HARBOR THE WORST NITS EVER AND
ASODK!@O#K! RIGGGED

also WTF is with ur horrific rakeback policy.. u make depositing onto ur
site impossible then u subtract fees .. first of all how are u paying
like 400$ in epass fees do you not know anything about negociating?

Theres a book called "Getting to Yes" .. it costs like 25 bucks.. invest
in it and tell epass ur not paying ridiculous fees. ESPECIALLY IF THEY
MAKE IT SO THERES A [censored] 1k LIMIT ON TRANSACTION

WTF KIND OF BROKE ASS PEOPLE LIMIT 1k TRANSACTIONS WITH NO WAY TO OBTAIN
A HIGHER LIMIT? ARE U JOKING

I dont wanna go back to UB cuz my god are they shady about payouts ..
and the software sorta tilts me, but they're RB policy and bonuses are
better .. DO SOMETHING ZOMG GOGOGGO




They responded dont read this, its way tl;dr and i summarize it at the bottom




Full Tilt Poker - Support <support@fulltiltpoker.com> wrote:

Hello ,

Thank you for emailing Full Tilt Poker Support.

As an avid poker player, I certainly understand your frustrations with
bad beats and general negative variance. I have myself been through
prolonged streaks of both good and bad luck.

Please be assured that our shuffle is random.

Please consider that as well as being technically close to impossible,
there is no motivation for a poker site to "rig" the deck in favor or
against a specific player. From a business standpoint, it makes sense to
keep players happy, and the best way to keep players happy is to provide
a legit, fair, and friendly game. This is why site integrity is of
paramount importance to us.

I have the feeling that you misunderstand how our business operates.
Unlike casino sites, poker sites do not earn revenue when a player loses
money. Our income is derived solely from the rake, a small percentage of
the pot that is taken from the winner of the hand. Understand that in a
very real sense, we have no interest in the outcome of individual hands.
Manipulating the dealing of cards does nothing to increase our revenue
and everything to minimize it--it would be financial suicide as a
business decision to engage in such unethical activity, ruining our
reputation. Understand that your losses are not translated into our
gains; the player who has won the money from you has gained to be sure,
but this is completely unrelated to how our revenue is derived.

Unfortunately in the short-run, variance is such a large factor in
poker, and many players will receive more than their expected average of
premium hands in terms of card distribution and consequently at times,
less than their expected average of premium hands. The same can be said
in terms of hitting flops and completing draws or having hands hold up.
It is only when dealing with very large numbers that a player's average
statistics will approach its expected average. This is where the
expression, "professionals play by the month, not by the day" is
derived.

Understand that there is no "doom switch" but there certainly is
statistical variance. It is only when speaking of tens of thousands of
hands that personal statistics begin to approach its theoretical
expectation. For players that play this game for a living, it is
imperative that they keep a very large bankroll to endure such
fluctuation. It is well known that an excellent player that may win from
1 to 2 big bets an hour playing limit can lose 300-500 big bets, and a
winning no-limit player can endure a run of 20 or more buy-in losses,
again due to variance. In sit and gos, 20 to 30 session droughts in
which a player does not cash is not uncommon. These are taken into
account, and professionals are very conscientious of when to move down
limits to lower their risk of ruination to a reasonable level. Knowledge
of these statistics will not make these players immune to bad
beats--nobody is--however, they will react better when these inevitable
bad runs do occur. Also, these same players are very honest with
themselves, analyzing when they are running bad, and when they are
playing bad. It is often the level of honesty that separates an
excellent player from someone who is merely above average.

I strongly suggest that you visit the poker forums in the link below; it
is the largest poker forum that is visited by many poker enthusiasts
such as yourself, and is an unbiased third party to our site (and any
other poker sites in business). I believe that the voice of the general
poker community will be more persuasive in dissuading you of your belief
that online poker is rigged.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/ubbthreads.php

In regards to ePassporte fees, unfortunately you will have to take up
your concern with them. As they are not directly associated with Full
Tilt Poker, we have no control over what they charge.

On behalf of Full Tilt Poker, I wish you the best of luck at the tables.
Should you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to
contact us.

Regards,

Ross
Poker Specialist
Full Tilt Poker Support

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Please remember never to give out your password or enter
account details over the Internet. Full Tilt Poker staff will
never ask you for your password. For your security, always
keep this information a secret.

Learn, Chat, and Play with the Pros at http://www.fulltiltpoker.com
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The response was tl;dr .. but basically they said sorry and turned on the boom.








Its actually only like 1400 because I went to starbucks today while my brother got a colonosopy (sp.. ? gross..) cuz I had 2 drive him home.. I lost like 15 due to tmobile CHARGING me for internet.. (rigged wtf [censored] starbucks) then another 200 because KQhh>AKhc in a 4bet pot.. weeee.. also KQ>77 on Q87r.. site is rigged except when I play on my desktop obv.

So SHIP IT 7 BI!!! ..

Bout 2 go smoke a bong with my boys.. peace

oh also thx to Shootaa.. hes a balla coach, I would def not have this sick day without his help

HOLLA
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:41 AM
shootaa shootaa is offline
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Default Re: Biggest Day... ever...

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: Biggest Day... ever...

Wow, they actually read those e-mails.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:42 AM
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nice legs
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:43 AM
DopamineRelease DopamineRelease is offline
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Default Re: Biggest Day... ever...

Seems like a pretty sick day, nh
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: Biggest Day... ever...

lol @ that dudes his response
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:38 AM
Al_Money Al_Money is offline
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Default Re: Biggest Day... ever...

hey fees hows it goign
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:42 AM
ZingZhang ZingZhang is offline
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Default Re: Biggest Day... ever...

[ QUOTE ]

Hello ,

Thank you for emailing Full Tilt Poker Support.

As an avid poker player, I certainly understand your frustrations with
bad beats and general negative variance. I have myself been through
prolonged streaks of both good and bad luck.

Please be assured that our shuffle is random.

Please consider that as well as being technically close to impossible....

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So they've tried..... [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Edit: Also, well done fees [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:43 AM
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lol @ that dudes his response

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thats the standard ftp response no matter what
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: Biggest Day... ever...

I got more play chips than you
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