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#11
10-02-2007, 08:12 PM
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Re: 200NL River Decision
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[ QUOTE ] I bet/fold 30ish the turn. I think this guy will call again with Qx and we want to extract from a fd. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah but I think there is a higher probability of him calling with Qx from a bet/check/bet line than a bet/bet/check line. Also I felt this might induce bluffs if the river bricked from FD's. I think your line is fine too though. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know, slow played set, AQ, A6, A2, 67, 77 seems like there are quite a few hands that beat you that this guy plays like this. More importantly, is this guy really bluff raising lots of rivers? 
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#12
10-02-2007, 08:16 PM
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Re: 200NL River Decision
also, I think you get more value out of his range by either (ideally) betting the turn or (much less than ideal) checking both the turn and the river.
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#13
10-02-2007, 08:27 PM
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Re: 200NL River Decision
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More importantly, is this guy really bluff raising lots of rivers? [/ QUOTE ] yeah.. this is the only thing that matters. If you need a range, it's like 67/77/Q7 with some random stuff thrown in.
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#14
10-02-2007, 08:28 PM
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Re: 200NL River Decision
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I bet/fold 30ish the turn. I think this guy will call again with Qx and we want to extract from a fd. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah but I think there is a higher probability of him calling with Qx from a bet/check/bet line than a bet/bet/check line. Also I felt this might induce bluffs if the river bricked from FD's. I think your line is fine too though. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know, slow played set, AQ, A6, A2, 67, 77 seems like there are quite a few hands that beat you that this guy plays like this. More importantly, is this guy really bluff raising lots of rivers? [/ QUOTE ] His river AF was 3. Every other street was less than 1.
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#16
10-02-2007, 08:29 PM
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Re: 200NL River Decision
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[ QUOTE ] More importantly, is this guy really bluff raising lots of rivers? [/ QUOTE ] yeah.. this is the only thing that matters. If you need a range, it's like 67/77/Q7 with some random stuff thrown in. [/ QUOTE ] Flush draw is a big part of his range too imo.
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#17
10-02-2007, 08:34 PM
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Re: 200NL River Decision
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bet turn [/ QUOTE ] Agree. As played, I know its tempting to look him up after the hand went down like this but I have looked up wierd slowplayed hands waaayyy too much in spots like this. Clear fold.
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#18
10-02-2007, 08:38 PM
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Re: 200NL River Decision
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[ QUOTE ] More importantly, is this guy really bluff raising lots of rivers? [/ QUOTE ] yeah.. this is the only thing that matters. If you need a range, it's like 67/77/Q7 with some random stuff thrown in. [/ QUOTE ] I'd say slowplays are more likely than these.
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#20
10-02-2007, 08:46 PM
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Re: 200NL River Decision
Easiest turn bet ever. Then you check the river and let him bluff his diamond draw.
This is ESPECIALLY true given what you said (but ooooh so helpfully did not include in the OP, lol) about his river AF being 3.0 and all other streets < 1.0. Sounds like this guy likes to see the river and then likes to bluff if he senses weakness and/or value bets really thin on the river. Betting turn and flop and c/cing river is amazingly profitable vs. his range with TPGK.
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