Which poker game is hardest to deal?

[Floker]

I'm thinking of starting to play live, and when tipping dealers I'd like to take into account how tough the game which we're playing is to deal and tip accordingly. I'm sure dealing a game like PLO is tougher than, say, LHE, but I don't know about the other games, like 7-card stud H/L. Thanks for the info.

[wstaffor]

Don't try to get fancy, just tip $1 for every pot you win. Done.

[Floker]

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Don't try to get fancy, just tip $1 for every pot you win. Done.

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[skin city]

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Don't try to get fancy, just tip $1 for every pot you win. Done.

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I like this answer

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perfect! maybe if its a monster pot, drop the dealer a couple whites, maybe a few. it never hurts to tip nice. thats what these dealers work for

[pfapfap]

I appreciate that you consider the dealers enough to even think about this.

Limit Hold'em is by far the easiest and fastest, and the standard by which all others are judged. This is a typical $1/pot game.

Stud takes longer, at least at the lower levels, because there are a lot more cards and every player has to consider more information. At 2/4 and 4/8 stud, I tend to get in 12-15 hands for every 18-20 at hold'em.

Omaha 8 is the slowest of them all, partially because I hardly ever deal it and I'm not the fastest at reading hands. Each hand takes twice as long to deal, there's a lot of pot chopping, and twelve times as many hands to read. I don't do it often enough to have a sense of my rate, but it's fewer hands than stud. In this game, friendly and helpful players aid everything tremendously, moreso than any other. Unfortunately, it's least likely to contain helpful players.

We only spread limit games, so I can't speak to PLO or NLHE. I deal No Limit at some home games, but I can't compare that to hand rate in a casino, as the environments are entirely different. It's certainly the most fun to deal, and pot management can be done rather quickly.

As to adjusting your tipping... meh. I appreciate the thought, but I also understand that these other games take longer and so your hourly winrate isn't as high. They also tend to be lower-yield games per hand to boot. Since we have so many more mid-limit hold'em games than stud and omaha, I just accept I won't make as much on those tables. Really, since these games have more nits, if a table's a sour unfun place to deal, with players causing problems, just some verbal acknowledgment with maybe an extra chip goes a long way. A nice, fast, cooperative table is worth more to me than an extra buck or two.

Note that this is just my opinion. Other dealers may feel differently.

[Floker]

Thanks for your reply. I thought tracking the pot in pot limit games could become difficult, esp. if you have to do it fast and the players don't keep track of the pot size well themselves. You're saying it's not really more difficult than dealing NL?

edit: and I guess you're also saying that if I want to have a good time playing, I'd better not sit down in any O8 game [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[psandman]

That actually depends on what you mean by tough to deal. It can be very tough to deal alow limit hold'em game if your players are all drunks who aren't paying attnetion, or all newbies who need to be spponfed each and every time the action gets to them. Pot limit games, though the dealer has the added responsibility of tracking maximum bet sizes often can be easier to deal if the players involved are experienced Pot limit players because they will often know the pot size and keep the game flowing.

Its tougher to get out many hands in a stud game (at least for those of us who rarely deal stud). And games that always go to the river and showdown take longer (Hence you will get out fewer hands in a $2-$4 limit game then you will in a $15-$30 limit game.

Baby No limit games offer there own challenges, they can be dreadfully slow as your players like to stare into each others souls before betting all-in for there last $18.


Ith ink you will be best off if you judge the toughness of dealing the game based upon your observations of the individual game as opposed to game type.

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It can be very tough to deal alow limit hold'em game

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For definitions of 'tough' that include 'tedious'. My place isn't a tourist-heavy joint, so the dumb drunks are at least used to procedure. It can be a madhouse, but once you get used to it, it's really just babysitting alcoholics.

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You're saying it's not really more difficult than dealing NL?

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I'm not saying that at all, as I've only done pot limit a couple of times in my home games. I imagine it takes at least a little longer than NL, and a lot more work. But I'm comfortable enough with NL that I can get the action moving rather quickly.

[RR]

Chinese poker is the physically hardest to deal.

[monkeytales]

Low stakes NL is the worst. I deal in Houston, which has more poker rooms than any other city in the world. I used to deal mainly PL, this was tough at first, but after one down in the box, it became pretty simple and keeps your mind in the game more. I get out between 36-44 hands per hour depending on the players. In bigger NL game, with competent players who aren't trying to be on TV, I get 40 hands per hour without breaking a sweat. My best hour ever is was 50 hands. Deep stack PLO8B would probably be the toughest. I've dealt Omaha Hi and it's just as simple as PLH. I'm trying to get a job in Vegas, but I havent found a way IN yet. Any leads?