5/10 6M Deep River Decision

whitelime · #1 08-25-2006, 03:59 AM

Villain is Snappo1. He's around 23/16, v tagish. About 10 min ago, the following hand happened:

He raises, someone calls, i reraise KK, he calls. HU to flop of T33r. He raises my bet all-in
w/ KQ and gets stacked.

About 5 min later, I raise, he reraises in position, I 4-bet and he mucks pretty fast.

I reraise him again oop a few hands later and he mucks again.

Then the hand in question happens. I was almost convinced he would just push preflop w/ any 2 given our prior history. The psychology on the river is pretty intense.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

SB ($990)
BB ($381.25)
Hero ($2104.50)
MP ($2686.41)
Button ($1625.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
Hero raises to $35, MP calls $35, Button raises to $135, 2 folds, Hero raises to $385, MP folds, Button calls $250.

Flop: ($820) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($820) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($820) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Hero checks, Button goes all-in. Hero ?

Final Pot: $820

flawless_victory · #2 08-25-2006, 04:02 AM

1240 into 820 on river.

2win · #3 08-25-2006, 04:09 AM

why not bet the flop? ok maybe the ace got you but why check the turn? Allright you want to keep the pot small and avoid being pushed off your hand. Oh wait what about a blocking/ value bet on the river say about300-400 hundo? I know I would call with qq,jj,and 1010 and after I loose I'll call you a donkey for the way you played your hand.

Sunny Mehta · #4 08-25-2006, 04:15 AM

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1240 into 820 on river.

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exactly.....call in a heartbeat and then pat yourself on the back (regardless of what he shows you) for A) getting him to put in that much money preflop and B) doing the best possible job of inducing a bluff.....

FoxwoodsFiend · #5 08-25-2006, 04:07 AM

Geez. I just typed out a really long post about how this is a call,but the more I think about it the more I think this guy's been beiding his time afraid of playing big pots and probably has 44, 55, or AA.

I will say I think he almost never has an A or a flush.

dcb777 · #6 08-25-2006, 04:10 AM

I fold pretty quickly here

fsuplayer · #7 08-25-2006, 01:21 PM

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fsuplayer · #8 08-25-2006, 01:22 PM

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Geez. I just typed out a really long post about how this is a call,but the more I think about it the more I think this guy's been beiding his time afraid of playing big pots and probably has 44, 55, or AA.

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why no ace? i doubt he's betting like 500 with an ace on the end.

im not saying its not a call, but i dont think we can rule out an ace at all given the prior history.

i guess im not seeing why its never an ace or flush.

Bet · #9 08-26-2006, 09:01 AM

I was shocked no one thought he could have an ace here. I can see the reasons for call as given the history there's a lot going on in the river, he could be tilting, and he may just want to get one over on you and i agree those reasons have their place in hands like this. I just don't think so in this hand, because the fact HE DIDN'T try to bluff the flop or the turn makes me think he is trapping this time with an ace. If he is tilting or wants to get one over on you then most will just do it on the flop all the time. Also if the guy is still rational he probably wouldn't try it on the turn with the picked up backdoor flush, if not rational then probably.

I see his range has pretty heavily weighted towards the major hands, given it's extremely good for an ace to check behind here, extremely good for the flushes to make good then make it look like a river/turn pick up bet and if he had boardway cards he would have tried to pick up on the flop rather than river. Then factor in the unnecessary overbet, makes this a fold.

CopTHIS · #10 08-25-2006, 08:29 AM

I know it's lame, but I honestly would be 50:50 given the history. But maybe after reading some views I would sway one way or the other [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]