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Old 09-03-2007, 03:50 AM
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Default KJ suited UTG

Villain is 45/12 over about 180 hands

Overall thoughts?

These are the types of situations where I kind of freeze on how aggressive to be since I am new to limit.

Is my line standard or too passive? Or even spewy?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: KJ suited UTG

At a 6-max table, I generally fold KJs UTG.

The ace might have been a good scare card to bet at.

What hands does villain raise the flop with that could contain an ace?

A suited ace of spades might. AK 3-bets before the flop. A5 and A2 seem to be a bit weak to raise with on the flop.

If you're raised on the ace, you can probably get away from it easily because you're drawing to at most 5 outs and possibly 2 outs if villain has aces up (obviously drawing dead against a set). If you're called, you can hope to see a free showdown UI.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: KJ suited UTG

3-bet the flop. Fire turn and river.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: KJ suited UTG

fold KJs UTG?

Seems a little nitty to me, maybe not though. The charts in the stickied section have it as a raise UTG, but those obviously aren't full-proof.

What are your 6-max stats SuperUberBob if you don't mind?

I'm at about 21/18 playing 6-max limit, but that is only over about 3k hands so far.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:05 AM
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3-bet the flop. Fire turn and river.

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Is your reasoning behind this line based on the fact that flush draw has come up empty?

Is this a standard line when rasied on flop and there is a flush draw that doesn't get there?
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:08 AM
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I would 3-bet flop for value. As played you should bet turn since he don't have an ace and you probably have the best hand and want some value with it and don't want him to check behind turn.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: KJ suited UTG

Folding KJs UTG is super nitty. I raise KTs here too. 3 bet the the flop, his range includes flush draws, a 5, small pps or worse. You have a big edge against his range.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: KJ suited UTG

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I would 3-bet flop for value. As played you should bet turn since he don't have an ace and you probably have the best hand and want some value with it and don't want him to check behind turn.

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How can you be so certain that the ace didn't hit him?

I feel like Ax spades and A5 are definitely part of his range. If I bet turn, am I folding to a raise?
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:12 AM
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At a 6-max table, I generally fold KJs UTG.


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What suited cards do you raise from UTG in 6-max. I think KJs is an easy opener and I also raise KTs, A8s and above and QJs and above and JTs.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:16 AM
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I would 3-bet flop for value. As played you should bet turn since he don't have an ace and you probably have the best hand and want some value with it and don't want him to check behind turn.

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How can you be so certain that the ace didn't hit him?

I feel like Ax spades and A5 are definitely part of his range. If I bet turn, am I folding to a raise?

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off course I'm not sure but it seems very unlikely. Yes you bet/fold turn.
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