2007-2008 NBA MVP

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Nash and Duncan should be the top 2 on any MVP ballot until further notice

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kthx keep us updated.

[THEOSU]

well, i guess this thread's over until irishhand deems otherwise.

[ClarkNasty]

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Nash and Duncan should be the top 2 on any MVP ballot until further notice

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kthx keep us updated.

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FWIW, I think that Kobe, LeBron, and KG are all of pretty similar value, but all behind Duncan

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What changed in the last 12 days?

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Nash and Duncan should be the top 2 on any MVP ballot until further notice

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kthx keep us updated.

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FWIW, I think that Kobe, LeBron, and KG are all of pretty similar value, but all behind Duncan

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What changed in the last 12 days?

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MVP != best player to have in the playoffs

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With respect to LeBron,

He has decided to start bringing it in the regular season. I've always considered him a better talent than Kobe, but have always said I respect how hard Kobe plays during the reg season. Now Lebron is doing that too.

[FlyWf]

Last 5 games Lebron is averaging like 37/10/9.5 or something similarly ridiculous. He's been playing out of his mind.

[Vyse]

there's no point in even having award discussions until more of the season progresses so we can even make strength-of-schedule adjustments.

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there's no point in even having award discussions until more of the season progresses so we can even make strength-of-schedule adjustments.

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There's no point for most of the threads in this forum. That doesn't preclude discussion.

[Vyse]

Informed discussion > uninformed discussion, no? I'm all for pointless discussion, but it's hard for that discussion to be worth anything even in entertainment points when there's not a lot to discuss.

[kidcolin]

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Putting up obnoxious bulk numbers does not equal "MPV" - or at least it shouldn't. Cavs have more talent than Lakers, Cavs play in markedly inferior conference, Lakers have better record. Kobe is a better basketball player - he's just realized (two years too late imo) that he doesn't need to score 40 a game.

LeBron's bulk will decline over time as he shifts from individual excellence to improving his teammates.

Nash and Duncan should be the top 2 on any MVP ballot until further notice, although I agree that Garnett warrants inclusion in that conversation if Boston wins 50+ (same for Kobe, though the 50+ is a lot less likely). Dirk getting a "lifetime achievement award" a la Karl Malone was pathetic.

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It's funny that in the same post you bitch about bulk stats winning the award, you say Dirk didn't deserve it, whose efficiency was the #1 reason that team won 67 games last season. I know xorbie pointed it out already, but it was so retarded it needed to be pointed out twice.

When Kobe's not putting up 40, he's not all that involved. He still takes awful shots with regularity. The "MVP" of the Lakers thus far has been the second unit.