I hope Pokerstars doesn't screw me - need advice

[Cent]

I often transfer with players for a 5% fee. This guy contacted me who said what I do, and he wanted to make a transfer off of Pokerstars. We did a couple thousand dollars, than Pokerstars did a security check on the guy, the guy passed the security check. We had transferred around $4000, he gave to me on PS, I gave to him on FTP and UB. Now, Pokerstars said the "true" owner of the account said someone accessed it without his permission, and so PS froze my account. I asked that they don't take my money, as I am an innocent victim in this, and here is what they responded. Anyone know what I should do?

Hello Adam,

Thanks for your email.

I appreciate that you may well have entered into this transfer in good
faith, however you also did so at your own risk.

We now have reason to believe that the funds you received came from an
account that was accessed without the owners knowledge, they were
effectively stolen funds.

If you were to inadvertently purchase a stolen car, you would not have
been aware that it was stolen, however it also would not change that
fact.
If the authorities managed to trace the car, it would be returned to
the
genuine owner. That may seem like an odd analogy but I hope it makes my
point.

The account holder in question, 'mobster80, has subsequently informed
us
that he has filed a police report against the likely perpetrator in
this
matter. He is also actively trying to resolve the situation with him
directly.

This investigation is very much ongoing and I'm afraid that we need to
keep your account frozen for the time being.

I apologize for the inconvenience here and I will get back to you as
soon
as possible.

Regards,

Dan
PokerStars Security


----- Original Message -----
From: ****
Sent: 2007/06/11 19:23:23
To: support@pokerstars.com
Subject: Frozen account

>I tried logging in and got "internal error" 71/1001. Someone
transferred
me money that they owe me, and then my account got frozen. I had no
idea
that there was any foul play going on.
>
>Please unfreeze my account and don't take away the transferred money,
as
I already gave that money to the player that transferred to me. As you
can
see on my account, I have done numerous transfers to other players of
that
size, with no issues.
>
>I'm an honest guy and I do a valuable service Pokerstars by giving
players funds who otherwise would have trouble getting it. I allow them
to
play on your website.

[demon102]

u should send emails to the other sites that u did tranfers for this guy too

[tiger_hall]

talk to that bloke you did transfer with and sort it out...

[MiltonFriedman]

Raise your fee to cover your credit risk. You were running a business for a fee, using someone else's system, what is your complaint ?

btw, that is how Neteller got started, they used Paypal's system and simply put a different face on it.

(Welcome to the world of credit fraud/chargebacks.)

[KurtSF]

You're just going to have to wait it out.

I don't mean be passive; by all means stay in touch with support. But until the situation is resolved on their end there's going to be no way to put the money into play or withdraw it.

[derek luv]

Looks like a difficult situation for you. Hopefully things will be resolved correctly.

[cardman]

That sucks.

OP, is this person you traded with on 2+2? What's their 2+2 posting name?

[Alobar]

that sucks dude and im sorry. But there really isnt anything you can do. Pokerstars wont (and shouldnt) eat the loss on this. This is just one of the risks that go with transferring funds for people you don't know.

[augie_]

Cent,

Good thing you charge that 5% fee!

[Mjafish]

better privately... through PM