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Old 10-24-2007, 09:16 AM
RolloRolf RolloRolf is offline
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Default Re: How to play KK in this spot...?

No more advice?

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Old 10-24-2007, 09:15 PM
Bren Bren is offline
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Default Re: How to play KK in this spot...?

You would bet more on the flop for value, i think you'll find that villian is either calling or not regardless of size (with a few extreme exceptions).

I understand what you're saying about protection but you're either way ahead or behind here I think, and without reads I think checking the turn with a plan is significantly better than betting with the intention of waving the white flag at the river.

It looks to be a gross spot and personally I have trouble with these kinds of players myself, I think you're beating enough hands to call here.
results?? 44 or was it something ugly?
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:00 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: How to play KK in this spot...?

I think the flop bet is perfect, how does 2/3 pot look scared? The turn bet is good, and I like the river c/c. You will see a missed flush draw and a Q here a decent amount of time. If he flopped a flush so be it, he probably should have raised you on the turn. If he hit a set, he DEFINITELY should have raised you somewhere. I think you will see a flush sometimes, but you will also see hands you beat often enough with the odds youre getting I think.
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:22 PM
Bren Bren is offline
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Default Re: How to play KK in this spot...?

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I think the flop bet is perfect, how does 2/3 pot look scared?

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You're right I've caught the FTP disease, that said I still like betting more for value on this board.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:38 PM
Woody317 Woody317 is offline
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Default Re: How to play KK in this spot...?

Yeah this spot sorta sucks.
Firstly bet more preflop. Charge people to see a flop when you're gonna be OOP. I'd probly make it 3.50 preflop.
Also i'd bet pot on the flop. If anyone has the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] they're not gonna fold so again charge them to play on.

On the turn against an aggro opponent i might check raise all in. Otherwise i might just overbet shove the turn (although your bet sizes make it too big a shove). I think villain struggles to fold AQ here and i also don't think the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is folding that often. Even so i still dunno if it's that +EV.
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