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Old 10-17-2007, 01:53 PM
AsydRayne AsydRayne is offline
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Default NL200: Monster flop deep against a good regular

Villain is Big_Rob_48, who seems to be a good regular.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $492.30
CO: $459.70
BTN: $297
Hero (SB): $356.50
BB: $101.55
UTG: $164.15

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26</font>, BB folds, MP calls $18

Flop: ($54) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $100</font>, <font color="red">Hero ??</font>

We have 175BB effective stacks so it is a $230 raise. He's obviously repping a set, but I can't get really get away from a hand this strong. I don't see this being a bluff ever, but I can't seem to figure out the best line?
shove?
call/shove?
call/check/shove over raise or on river?

I guess I'm worried about facing a shove on a blank turn, so my instinct is to get it in when I know I have good equity and just shove the flop.

Thoughts?
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: NL200: Monster flop deep against a good regular

I jam it here on the flop.

I think your initial flop bet is too small this deep. Get some more value there with a $41 bet or so...
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:04 PM
AsydRayne AsydRayne is offline
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Default Re: NL200: Monster flop deep against a good regular

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I think your initial flop bet is too small this deep. Get some more value there with a $41 bet or so...

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I've been thinking about this. The problem is I reraised against a good regular and the flop came up ace high. It is really hard for me to get any value out of this flop at all. I was hoping a weak bet might be interpreted as KK QQ and i could possibly squeeze another bet out of AQ or induce a bluff. Does AQ ever call two strong bets here?
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: NL200: Monster flop deep against a good regular

Well, you do get at least one bet out of AQ. So, make that initial bet a bit bigger to squeeze out a few extra bb's on the flop. I don't think his plan is going to change very much if you bet $32 or $41.
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: NL200: Monster flop deep against a good regular

bet $40+ on the flop and then shove over his range. if he has a set, gg
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: NL200: Monster flop deep against a good regular

good regular? what are his stats? history? how light does he call 3 bets? how often are you 3 betting him? how often does he raise c bets? float vs c bets?
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: NL200: Monster flop deep against a good regular

i have him at 24 20 5. I know he 3bets a lot, but I don't really have an idea on his 3-bet calling range or how bluffy he is in 3-bet pots. He probably has me around 18 14 2 and is should be giving me credit for a hand here.

Only recent history: I lost a stack to him earlier 3-handed when he was 3-betting way too much. I called his 3-bet pre and shoved over c-bet with an oesd and an ace, he snap called with KK and held up.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: NL200: Monster flop deep against a good regular

std shove
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: NL200: Monster flop deep against a good regular

Regarding the flop bet, if you bet this size to induce a raise, then good hand. I think your flop bet certainly entices AQ to raise here. Will a good reg call a hand with reverse implied odds in position?
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: NL200: Monster flop deep against a good regular

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bet $40+ on the flop and then shove over his range. if he has a set, gg

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