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Old 09-26-2007, 04:50 PM
Tumez Tumez is offline
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Default KQ 3-bet pot. Do we snap this?

Game #5684681964: Holdem NL (£2/£5) - 2007/09/26 - 14:29:50 (DST)

Table "Lastserved" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: Hero (£550 in chips)
Seat 3: Snomus (£160.45 in chips)
Seat 5: Villian (£633 in chips)
Seat 6: Garfy (£1007.80 in chips)

Villian: posts small blind £2
Garfy: posts big blind £5

----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero [K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]

Hero: raises to £17
Snomus: calls £17
Villian: raises to £75
Garfy: folds
Hero: calls £58
Snomus: calls £58

----- FLOP ----- [7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]

Villian: checks
Hero: checks
Snomus: checks

----- TURN ----- [7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]][6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]

Villian: bets £120
Hero: calls £120
Snomus: folds

(Pot:$472)
----- RIVER ----- [7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]][ 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]

Villian: bets £438 and is all-in
Hero?

Villian is regular TAG/LAG, capable of squuezing etc. etc. Not much history. Hero should be viewed as a TAG. How was my line? Call or fold the river?
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: KQ 3-bet pot. Do we snap this?

fold preflop
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: KQ 3-bet pot. Do we snap this?

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fold preflop

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Seriously. Fold preflop isn´t answer to every situations. This guy is squezing here tons of hands. We can´t just fold, and wait aces.
I was ready to stack of most on K or Q high flops, but his line was a bit weid, so it got me confused.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: KQ 3-bet pot. Do we snap this?

Agree with folding preflop. No, you don't have to wait for AA, but this isn't the spot to go to war.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: KQ 3-bet pot. Do we snap this?

There are better ways to combat this. COnsider 4 betting more, ect. I fold pf and feel good about it even vs this opponent
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: KQ 3-bet pot. Do we snap this?

fold everywhere but turn
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: KQ 3-bet pot. Do we snap this?

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fold everywhere but turn

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He can check the flop. I can see an openfold, though.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: KQ 3-bet pot. Do we snap this?

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Agree with folding preflop. No, you don't have to wait for AA, but this isn't the spot to go to war.

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Explain why? What hands do you call/4-bet here. It´s 4-handed game. I think I can take a flop with this hand, even though it´s sometimes dominated etc.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: KQ 3-bet pot. Do we snap this?

Just fold pre and start 4-bet shoving with hands that have decent equity vs his calling range. As played river is a fold I think.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: KQ 3-bet pot. Do we snap this?

i think i would call the riv, but im not sure
how long did he take to check/bet on all 3 streets?
and i don't think calling pre is bad at all. If i were to fold the KQ there it would be b/c im concerned the BTN shorty might shove...of course this is assuming villain squeezes frequently
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