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Old 09-26-2007, 04:17 PM
aditya aditya is offline
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Default Playing SC\'s from blinds a big leak? (or a leak in general)

So I generally play a decent amount of SC's from the blinds (or just in general). I've been told it's pretty bad by some while others say it's not really as big a leak as others.

Situation 1: CO regular (tag) pops it up to 3.5BB, you're Button with 56ss or 78ss, is calling here a big leak (obv 3-betting is an option, but for all intensive purposes, lets say you decide to either fold or call.)

Situation 2: Some donkey from MP raises it up to 3.5 BB again, and another donkey in CO calls and folded to you in SB with 56ss or 78ss, is calling here a big leak? What about with hands like 68ss or 46ss?

Situation 3: Tag (nitty) regular, raises from UTG, and another TAG calls in UTG+1, folded to you in BB with 56ss or 78ss, is calling that big a leak? What about with 1 gapped suited connectors?

Gah, after posting this, it makes it sound like I'm trying to get info for free or leach but I honestly just wanna know if its a leak or if its OK?
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: Playing SC\'s from blinds a big leak? (or a leak in general)

no, no (one gappers more yes), no (one gappers yes)
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:21 PM
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obv 3-betting is an option, but for all intents and purposes, lets say you decide to either fold or call.)

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Old 09-26-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Playing SC\'s from blinds a big leak? (or a leak in general)

3 betting in all of these situations is better than calling most of the time. I generally fold 70% raise 30% or something like that.

As far as whether or not it's a leak, that's for your PT to tell you. If you play SC well OOP and without initiative then no it isn't a leak.
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:51 PM
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3 betting in all of these situations is better than calling most of the time. I generally fold 70% raise 30% or something like that.

As far as whether or not it's a leak, that's for your PT to tell you. If you play SC well OOP and without initiative then no it isn't a leak.

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People say this all the time and I can't imagine how they could think this, to be honest.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:05 PM
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3 betting in all of these situations is better than calling most of the time. I generally fold 70% raise 30% or something like that.

As far as whether or not it's a leak, that's for your PT to tell you. If you play SC well OOP and without initiative then no it isn't a leak.

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People say this all the time and I can't imagine how they could think this, to be honest.

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Which part exactly?
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:07 PM
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3 betting in all of these situations is better than calling most of the time. I generally fold 70% raise 30% or something like that.

As far as whether or not it's a leak, that's for your PT to tell you. If you play SC well OOP and without initiative then no it isn't a leak.

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Wait, you're seriously gonna squeeze a nitty UTG raiser and a tight UTG+1 cold caller with a sc?
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Playing SC\'s from blinds a big leak? (or a leak in general)

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3 betting in all of these situations is better than calling most of the time. I generally fold 70% raise 30% or something like that.

As far as whether or not it's a leak, that's for your PT to tell you. If you play SC well OOP and without initiative then no it isn't a leak.

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People say this all the time and I can't imagine how they could think this, to be honest.

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Which part exactly?

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Yea... there are parts of this that are correct. I think that raising sometimes is going to be more profitable, but obviously this is extremely situational and dependent on your opponents. One thing I do not understand is that why you would be folding 70% and raising 30% if it is profitable for you unless you are saying that 70% of the time the dynamics (as I talked about earlier) are not right.

Next, I think he is right about it depending how well you play them OOP.

Overall I think that there are times for all 3 plays, even given these somewhat specific situations. You cant really answer this question completely without writing a book about it. Post some hand histories with reads, ect to get a better response.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:31 PM
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If you play better than your opponents postflop you can call with a wider range imo.
Playing fit-or-fold isn't going to show a profit, you're gonna have to checkraise bluff some etc etc.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:41 PM
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3 betting in all of these situations is better than calling most of the time. I generally fold 70% raise 30% or something like that.


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People say this all the time and I can't imagine how they could think this, to be honest.

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Which part exactly?

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Fixed my quote. It's like "oh man I have 5 high but I might flop real good so I better put a whole lot of money into the pot right now and possibly be pushed out immediatly and maybe if I'm lucky get my money in with 5 hi and 40% equity on the flop".
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