Can I call this bet from a very poor player??

[Dazza1984]

Ok this is my 1st time posting a hand from the net and dont know how to use the converter. So i copied and pasted this from pt. If anyone could tell me how to use convertor Id appreciate it also.

Villain from what ive seen is loose passive.

***** Pacific Hand History for Game 276615913 *****
$25/$50 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 03 02 00:33:19 2007
Tournament #14580384 $5 + $0.5 - Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: samkaf ( $2780 )
Seat 2: robjen90 ( $1190 )
Seat 3: rkarn ( $1800 )
Seat 4: toniging ( $570 )
Seat 5: c84nozo ( $2860 )
Seat 7: Dazzaxx ( $1795 )
Seat 9: spug100 ( $1005 )
toniging posts small blind [$25].
c84nozo posts big blind [$50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dazzaxx [ Kc Kd ]
Dazzaxx raises [$200].
spug100 folds.
samkaf calls [$200].
robjen90 folds.
rkarn folds.
toniging folds.
c84nozo folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 3c, 9c ]
Dazzaxx bets [$300].
samkaf calls [$300].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
Dazzaxx checks.
samkaf bets [$150].
Dazzaxx calls [$150].
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Dazzaxx checks.
samkaf bets [$2130].

Actions on me...

[Andrysmor]

Unless you've seen this passive player make a consistent number of big-call/small-call/big-bet moves in the past with something LESS than top pair, mostly you should just lay the hand down. Kings are great, and with only one overcard headsup they are even better. But a passive player has called your bets the whole way and now takes a massive lead. On the river, you should start asking yourself what he could really have. You took the lead preflop. Now with only one overcard to your kings, your continuation bet heads-up is correct. But on the turn you've bet $150, giving him the correct odds to chase pretty much any draw, and giving the impression you don't have the strong hand you started off with. Here I'd mix it up, going for about 50% raises of half the pot, the other 50% checking and giving the passive player the lead. Unless he has a very strong hand, he'll probably just check it down with you. After slowing down on the turn, you shut down on the river. Would a passive player in this spot, sensing weakness, turn hyper-aggressive with a less than optimal hand? Going back to my original opinion, I don't think so, and conclude without some prior hand analysis to compare the situation to you mostly should just fold.

[terrible]

yes, you can. but should you?

edit: fold river -> http://www.pregopoker.com/hhconv/convert

[Dazza1984]

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But on the turn you've bet $150, giving him the correct odds to chase pretty much any draw, and giving the impression you don't have the strong hand you started off with. player the lead. Unless he has a very strong hand, he'll probably just check it down with you. After slowing down on the turn, you shut down on the river. Would a passive player in this spot, sensing weakness, turn hyper-aggressive with a less than optimal hand?

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No I checked the turn. It was him that led out very weak on it

[Ende]

If he's really bad, he can make that play with some random ace like Ah5c and still beat you so I think we must fold on the turn...

By the way, I sometimes play at pacific poker, can you please tell me how do you get text hand history from there? I only get that playback feature when I click on "game history" button. thanks

[Nikoms]

I'd fold this in a second - KK is a good starting hand, but there are WAY too many things that could hurt us on that board. First, if he called with KQs (clubs) you're in a ton of trouble. Also, if he called with 33, 44, 77, 99 or even AA - and figured by your betting you didn't have the flush, you're in trouble.

The first question you have to ask is, "What would he call my preflop raise with?" (and not reraise) - if suited connectors or other PP, you could be in trouble here.

Also, what do YOU typically raise with (i.e. does he have you on TT-AA?)

Or maybe he's got J9o and he's a moron. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[Dazza1984]

Put all these thoughts through my head and eventually called. He had qjo for a busted fd.

Was just wondering was it a right call in the long run

[Oubliette]

check this flop plz.

as played im mucking river.