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Old 04-22-2007, 01:49 PM
Buzz-cp Buzz-cp is offline
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Default Re: AK...c bet?call?fold?wtf?

we can largely discount UTG's hand. He has two pair with 88!!!11 As for UTG+1 I think KQ & AQ are candidates. Sometimes he will show AJ, QQ, TT, but the times he has these hands, he is raising the river always. Also he is an unknown, so there are many weaker hands that we have 6 live outs against (incl TT).
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: AK...c bet?call?fold?wtf?

I'm not sure about the flop c-bet. Ok, UTG+1 is a LAG, but it's still likely that someone's picked up something on that board and the pot is large, so I don't think you're folding anything you care about. I wouldn't want to be raised here as you've got enough outs that you want to see the turn.

As played: turn is close, but I can see a typical .5/1 player doing this with a J without a Q, and you should be able to pull of a c-r if a T hits. So call.
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Old 04-22-2007, 08:45 PM
lautzutao lautzutao is offline
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Default Re: AK...c bet?call?fold?wtf?

If it were just you and UTG+1 I'd call this down. Seeing as it's not I gotta let it go.
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Old 04-22-2007, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: AK...c bet?call?fold?wtf?

i dump it on the turn with the UTG1 calling ...

we are not getting odds to call for a gut shot, so must think that A and K are good something ... problem with that is we could easily be reverse dominated with either, and with the caller we need to discount all spade outs
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