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Old 12-05-2006, 10:10 AM
taipan168 taipan168 is offline
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Default ($27) KQ in the BB to UTG limp on the bubble

UTG's HUD stats were 50/22 at this point, had been quite the donk by playing way too many marginal hands, calling down to showdown with TPNK, etc. Didn't seem to have limped/called pushes previously but had open limped a few hands that hadn't been shown down.

Is this a standard push with 500 chips in the pot preflop? Better to just check, see a flop then push if a K or Q comes?

Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200 (Ante: t25)
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t5365
Button: t3765
SB: t2575
Hero: t1795

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls t200, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1770</font>
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Old 12-05-2006, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ in the BB to UTG limp on the bubble

Not quite short enough IMO. He simply needs to fold an unimaginable number of hands to make this good with your stack. Absent the PF raise from this guy, I would certainly look to go broke c-shoving a favorable flop.
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Old 12-05-2006, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ in the BB to UTG limp on the bubble

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Not quite short enough IMO. He simply needs to fold an unimaginable number of hands to make this good with your stack. Absent the PF raise from this guy, I would certainly look to go broke c-shoving a favorable flop.

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I don't understand this....the guy is limping 50% of his hands....it sounds like hero is way ahead of villan's range. At 8bb's and no shorties, I'd push this as well. There is already 500 in the pot.
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ in the BB to UTG limp on the bubble

I love pushing here cos even if he does call you're virtually never dominated. Also, if he folds you're ~33% up compared to a fold. Seems a decent enough chunk to me.

On the other hand the colour of the first repliers feet makes me question my play. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ in the BB to UTG limp on the bubble

Shoving over a button or SB limp is good here. But against this knucklehead on the bubble I think you need a better hand to go to the felt with....and mainly its because of his retardedness (read very little fold equity). Getting called here is not good. I think AJ+, (ATs), 99+.
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ in the BB to UTG limp on the bubble

Considering your stack and your read on his donkishness, you might very well be up against a suited ace or a small PP which he will eventually call. A medium Ace A8s/A9o+ would be good.
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ in the BB to UTG limp on the bubble

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Absent the PF raise from this guy, I would certainly look to go broke c-shoving a favorable flop.

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PF Raise?
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ in the BB to UTG limp on the bubble

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Shoving over a button or SB limp is good here. But against this knucklehead on the bubble I think you need a better hand to go to the felt with....and mainly its because of his retardedness (read very little fold equity). Getting called here is not good. I think AJ+, (ATs), 99+.

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What percent of the time do you think villian calls here?
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ in the BB to UTG limp on the bubble

It's also a factor that he's directly behind you and stealing from him when you're in SB is also going to be hard / dangerous.
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ in the BB to UTG limp on the bubble

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Considering your stack and your read on his donkishness, you might very well be up against a suited ace or a small PP which he will eventually call. A medium Ace A8s/A9o+ would be good.

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Considering he is playing 50% of his hands, I don't see how you came up with a suited ace or small PP.
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