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Old 11-21-2007, 06:32 PM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: stars 1/2 - qq in capped preflop pot with k on flop

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Do you really think that 2.0 is aggro for a guy seeing the flop at this rate?

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Higher VPIP => weaker hands pf => 'AF is higher than it seems'

So, yes I think 2.0 is pretty aggro.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:44 AM
HermannTL HermannTL is offline
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Default Re: stars 1/2 - qq in capped preflop pot with k on flop

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Do you really think that 2.0 is aggro for a guy seeing the flop at this rate?

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Higher VPIP => weaker hands pf => 'AF is higher than it seems'

So, yes I think 2.0 is pretty aggro.

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As you may suspect, the reason I'm asking is that I'm wondering about my aggression; this month my TAF has been 2.73 on a VP$IP of 14.25...and that's coming down a little.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:45 AM
JSampras1 JSampras1 is offline
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Default Re: stars 1/2 - qq in capped preflop pot with k on flop

The reason i check raised the flop is am i check folding in a capped multiway pot to 1 bet there? That seems incredibly weak. Yeah i might be beat, but i would at least call there just so next time ppl don't try to steal with nothing.

And i believe that the other players will call with MANY more hands for 1 bet than 2 bets. This is 1/2. I would expect any donk with ax, any pp, any pair on the flop to call this for 1 more bet. If i'm calling down anyway, i would rather CR, get it heads up, and lose 1 more bet than risk letting someone overcall with a2 or a7 or something.

Also if one of the limpers calls 2 cold, or 3 bets, then i'm done with the hand because there is 0 chance i beat both of them.

But to the ppl who are saying CR is a bad idea, you are advocating folding to 1 bet in a 13 bet pot for 1 bet there? I just want to understand this?
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:44 AM
TimovieMan TimovieMan is offline
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Default Re: stars 1/2 - qq in capped preflop pot with k on flop

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But to the ppl who are saying CR is a bad idea, you are advocating folding to 1 bet in a 13 bet pot for 1 bet there? I just want to understand this?

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They are not advocating folding, they are advocating simply calling down, there’s a HUGE difference.

Basic idea is that UTG+2 is likely going to fold to 1 bet as well as he would to 2 bets. He’s only calling preflop, so he’s probably on an implied odds hand. Two guys raising and capping and a K flopping means that, unless he’s on the flush draw or he made a set, he’s drawing dead…
If he made a flush draw, he’s not folding to anything, if he made a set (or two-pair), he’s going to stick with us no matter what. Everything else he’ll fold for 1 bet…

And since we’re either slightly ahead or WAY behind, we don’t want to invest too much into this pot. Hence calling…
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