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Old 11-19-2006, 11:36 PM
iluzion iluzion is offline
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Default PP, I hate these hands

My first hand at table, all I've seen of villain thus far is him going off on someone for making a "stupid preflop call".

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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
[color=#cc0000]UTG raises</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#cc0000]UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#cc0000]UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#cc0000]UTG bets</font>, Hero...
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Old 11-19-2006, 11:44 PM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: PP, I hate these hands

Flop is an insta checkraise. Since you didn't, checkraising the turn is less of a great idea but also fine, IMO. Given your check/call on the turn, I'm assuming that you would have bet/called any other card.

I think calling the river is slightly -EV given the ace
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Old 11-19-2006, 11:50 PM
Mossberg Mossberg is offline
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Default Re: PP, I hate these hands

When I'm not 3betting low(er) pocket pairs preflop, I tend to C/R them HU on flops like this. Most of the time he'll have overs that you should be charging to draw, so C/R, bet bet is how I would usually play a hand like this.
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Old 11-19-2006, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: PP, I hate these hands

c/r the flop then lead each street.
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Old 11-20-2006, 12:06 AM
Jiggymike Jiggymike is offline
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Default Re: PP, I hate these hands

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c/r the flop then lead each street.

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Old 11-20-2006, 01:13 AM
evilgenius evilgenius is offline
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Default Re: PP, I hate these hands

Can you explain why this is a insta check raise? I really want to know the reasoning...

I would have bet the flop and turn and c/c the river.
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Old 11-20-2006, 01:24 AM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: PP, I hate these hands

its an insta checkraise because we have the equity to do it versus his range and we'll get value from that range each time.
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Old 11-20-2006, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: PP, I hate these hands

He very often has overcards here, a lot more often than pocket pairs, so you are ahead most of the time.
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Old 11-20-2006, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: PP, I hate these hands

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He very often has overcards here, a lot more often than pocket pairs, so you are ahead most of the time.

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And he's calling at least flop and usually turn with these holdings UI as well.
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:28 AM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: PP, I hate these hands

I am not trying to tie a guy with overcards to his hand or give two overcards correct odds to call so I usually don't c/r. Especially with a pp as low as 66. I just bet the flop unless I think he will fold to a c/r.
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