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Old 11-21-2006, 08:24 AM
HWO HWO is offline
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Default JTo Semibluff turn

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i thought he might fold a hand like AJ, KJ no hearts but he didn't so im not sure about the raise being the correct move

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: JTo Semibluff turn

The fact that nearly all his weaker hands call the turn raise and practically none of his better hands can 3bet is a decent reason to raise. Sugar coat that with your super sweet draw and the fact that you're never getting a river bet from his weaker hands and I like how you played this.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: JTo Semibluff turn

I like it.
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: JTo Semibluff turn

I'm not a fan of folding-equity plays on the turn (seems like no one ever folds to me!!), but this is a great spot to do it.
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Old 11-21-2006, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: JTo Semibluff turn

if u're going to raise the turn, i think u need to bet the river.
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Old 11-21-2006, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: JTo Semibluff turn

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if u're going to raise the turn, i think u need to bet the river.

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Why?
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Old 11-21-2006, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: JTo Semibluff turn

what do you do against a turn 3bet here? call down?
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: JTo Semibluff turn

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if u're going to raise the turn, i think u need to bet the river.

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Why?

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Oh wait, nm, u have a pair. I misread the hand. I think this hand looks good then.
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Old 11-21-2006, 01:58 PM
Jiggymike Jiggymike is offline
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Default Re: JTo Semibluff turn

This is nice 4-handed. I was going to advocate throwing away JTo in a 6-handed game UTG though, is that wrong?
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: JTo Semibluff turn

Really on the fence on this one, because we have to call a 3-bet on the Turn, and it could get us into a RIO situation if we do improve.

I'll think this one over, but I guess it would depend heavilly on his likelihood he would fold QQ-AA, and how aggressively he might play a naked A or K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on this turn, A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Jx or something like that.

Whats your 3-betting range for him?
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