44 PF. Back to the basics

[Grease]

Wierdly soft 10/20 home game. It's a rotation between holdem and O8. The first holdem round was very tight/passive, but since the O8, it's been better (and people have stopped playing their A game, which is nice.)

A passive, moderately loose player limps in EP (he CC'd my PF raise from the hijack in the SB with TT and only C/R'd the flop), folds to me in the CO. I have black 44. If I raise, I doubt I will get it heads up, and the button is the most likely person to call, based on his looseness and my image of being very aggro (I've been getting some decent hands recently.) The button is definitely one of the softer spots in the game. He is moderately tight in holdem, but terrible in O8. He is somewhat pissy since he got crushed the last O8.

SB is spazzy aggro and can play terrible cards because he feels lucky. He has been getting beaten up by me the better part of the night and hit the breaking point when I scooped a pot with him when I had the nut low and a pair of 9's for high (J9853 board, he had 8's and a worse low.)

I could see the SB 3-betting me pretty loosely here out of frustration, but again, I'm not sure.

If I limp, the pot will likely not be raised, but again, it won't be multiway.

What do I do and why?

[KhalynYohrk]

RAZE IT AND PWN THE [censored] OUT OF HIM W 44

[KitCloudkicker]

this is an easy limp imo

[KhalynYohrk]

Yea, but thats no fun kit

[KitCloudkicker]

i guess i should clarify

if you've got like the mind reading ability of a norse god and can tell when you're good on a flop of 689 after the SB 3 bangs and its 4 way raised pot, then i guess you have an argument for raising PF.

[jesse8888]

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this is an easy limp imo

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Your read says the button and small blind are both loose, right? Doesn't this pot figure to be 4 to 5 handed, then, and don't you figure to be well paid when you do flop a set? I'd limp 100% of the time here.

[mntndrew]

You've said the button is loose enough to call a raise, yet also moderately tight in hold 'em, which confuses me. Is he one of those players that likes to play position with a wide range against someone he feels is overplaying their hands?

Your best case is you end up 5-handed for a limp pot. You'll often have 4. In this case I think you need to make up at least 5 SB's postflop when you hit a set or a straight draw. You'll need your (few) opponents to catch some piece of the flop to give you the action you need to make up your deficit. I'll be the nit who says to fold this with only one limper in front.

[Amaryllis]

So you've reasoned that raising is not accomplishing your expected goals, and I agree. So, are you asking if you should fold here?

[cgrohman]

I just fold.

[TheCount212]

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this is an easy limp imo

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