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Old 11-07-2007, 11:30 PM
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Default $16 mucking QQ first hand

Hey. Villain is unknown. Raise utg/shove over my re-raise looks pretty damn strong. Can I fold here?

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UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
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MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)
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Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t100</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t280, <font color="red">UTG raises to t1500 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero ???
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:06 AM
_Towelie_ _Towelie_ is offline
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Default Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand

Against an unknown you have to get it in here. You've already committed 20% of your stack after the 3bet.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand

Against an unknown i think you are pot-committed although not necessarily ahead.

About 2100 in the pot already, and 1200 for you to call. I think your equity here is enough to call with these odds.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand

I call here and I'm very happy about it.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:52 AM
The Venetian The Venetian is offline
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Default Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand

First hand vs. unknown? No.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand

ok replace villain with a good 2+2er, what then?
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:18 AM
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Default Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand

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First hand vs. unknown? No.

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and vs a 2p2er id probably just call pf
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:24 AM
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Default Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand

Let's look at the evidence.

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Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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Villian is unknown

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first hand

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Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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Can I fold here?

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Are you frickin' kidding me?
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:33 AM
eurythmech eurythmech is offline
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Default Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand

Instacall vs unknown.
As played, fold vs strong regular.
But...good players don't usually open for 100 here.
Oh, and yeah, don't threebet the strong players, like somebody said.
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