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11-13-2007, 07:43 AM
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Re: My First, And Perhaps Only, Statement About Absolute
well said
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11-13-2007, 07:51 AM
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Re: My First, And Perhaps Only, Statement About Absolute
I have alot of respect of the knowledge the OP has in terms of poker.
Ive also read some of his literature. I do however disagree with a large portion of his post, suggesting as poker players we cant be trusted, or would cheat if given the oppertunity knowing we would get away with it. Even if playing at AP is profitable because all the best players left, the whole saga and web of lies makes me, as a consumer / online player - uncomfortable. Poker is a game of small margins, as theres so much choice in where you play, why increase that margin playing on a site you KNOW has been breached? I also hope your post encouraging people to go back isnt influenced by them giving you money. -Thanx
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11-13-2007, 08:17 AM
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Re: My First, And Perhaps Only, Statement About Absolute
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I'm never buying another one of your books, David Sklansky [/ QUOTE ] Correct. Every professional player should do as Sklansky describe it. Be careful, you might be cheated where ever you play. Don't mix moral with profession, take advantage. If you think you will do good at AP right now, play there. That's fine with me. A professional should make decisions based on this rational ethos. However.. Sklansky is not just a professional poker player. He is an authoritative poker author and it is in this roll he are famous and it is also in this roll his statement will be evaluated. Here we have an author who have no problem to advice people to play at a pokersite who have cheated players if they think they will do good there. However, he could have choose another angel. Sklansky could have pick up the opportunity, as a famous an authoritative poker author, to give voice for a general point of view which would benefit online poker in the long run. That point would of course have to deal with values which are not limited to the interest a single player have in the short run. If onlinepoker have legal problem in USA today, it will not be easier in the future if famous poker personalities show a total nihilistic view in respond to the biggest cheating scandal in online pokers history. I will never again buy a book from David Sklansky. And that is a moral statement.
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11-13-2007, 07:21 PM
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Re: My First, And Perhaps Only, Statement About Absolute
"I will never again buy a book from David Sklansky. And that is a moral statement."
Why not take it further and say you will never READ another book by me? You won't of course. Even if there was some mechanism whereby I got my royalty whenever someone read my book and there was no way of avoiding that. If I was a child killer and my book was about butterfly collecting, you might indeed never read my book about your hobby. Even more so if there was some chance it would stop future killings. But none of that is the case here. Whether you are talking about reading poker books or playing poker online. Learning poker concepts is a worthwile endeavor. Playing it fulltime, especially online where there is no social interaction, is just a way for smart people to get rich without contributing much. It is not a subject for high falootin philosophising.
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11-14-2007, 01:00 AM
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Re: My First, And Perhaps Only, Statement About Absolute
We should appreciate David's honesty and bluntness. I think David is stating that the lack of AP cheating detection you are taking a big chance on getting cheated playing there. You should understand this increased chance of being cheated, and decide based on your level of play and expected profits whether to play there or not. I agree to an extent that it is a +ev or -ev situation. But, I think you also have to factor in your morals and place a value on those morals. FWIW - I will not be playing there with the current owners and software.
Thank you, Jim Kuhn Catfish4u [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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11-14-2007, 03:29 AM
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Re: My First, And Perhaps Only, Statement About Absolute
[ QUOTE ]
"I will never again buy a book from David Sklansky. And that is a moral statement." Why not take it further and say you will never READ another book by me? You won't of course. Even if there was some mechanism whereby I got my royalty whenever someone read my book and there was no way of avoiding that. If I was a child killer and my book was about butterfly collecting, you might indeed never read my book about your hobby. Even more so if there was some chance it would stop future killings. But none of that is the case here. Whether you are talking about reading poker books or playing poker online. Learning poker concepts is a worthwile endeavor. Playing it fulltime, especially online where there is no social interaction, is just a way for smart people to get rich without contributing much. It is not a subject for high falootin philosophising. [/ QUOTE ] How about medium falootin philosophising?
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