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Old 06-04-2007, 01:33 PM
avfletch avfletch is offline
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Default $50NL: Learning to play position

I've decided to spend a bit of time improving my game rather than grinding $100NL badly so I've dropped back to $50 and I'm making some questionable plays.

I've only been at the table an orbit or so, so no real reads. So first comment is this is too loose without reads preflop?

Given we called preflop we snap call such a dry flop right?

Likewise for such a small turn bet?

Do you check behind river?

As always, thoughts on all plays but please tell me WHY!

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $49.15
BB: $60.50
UTG: $56.65
MP: $35.30
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $49.25</font>
BTN: $25.20

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $1.75, 3 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($4.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $4.25</font>, Hero calls $4.25

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($12.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $4.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($20.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: $50NL: Learning to play position

I'm never calling this hand from an UTG raiser, too likely to be dominated. I'd rather have a suited 9 10 than K 10.
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: $50NL: Learning to play position

His UTG raise screams strength, I wouldn't be surprised to see him have AK, KQ, KJ here. I would fold preflop.

Besides that I honestly play it the same.
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: $50NL: Learning to play position

Post flop is fine..PF I would never call an UTG raise w/KT absent a read...KT is too easily dominated...
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: $50NL: Learning to play position

I play this the same way every street, but I make sure I don't commit much with just top pair.

I'm mainly playing it for flush/straight value

I don't really like the flop bet... sometimes I might min raise there for pot control/free turn.
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: $50NL: Learning to play position

pf is bad readless.

I'd call flop - it's dry, we have a mediocre hand IP, we can't raise for value, let's not bloat the pot etc.

Turn I might raise - I don't mind ending the hand now rather than face a big bet on the river (I hate that line). It seems likely we have the best hand, but I don't want to play a guessing game on the river. Information raise, but it does stop villain making a mistake against us. Calling is purer but higher variance.

River easy check IMO. I can't see him having or calling with &lt;K6.
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: $50NL: Learning to play position

Calling with such marginal hand is bad, you will probably either get outkicked or just have to give up postflop.
check behind on the river, your hand has no real showdown value unless villain was 2nd barreling you which they hardly ever do.
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:01 PM
shutupladge shutupladge is offline
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Default Re: $50NL: Learning to play position

seems fine, other than the loose call preflop.
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: $50NL: Learning to play position

Yeah seems fine besides PF call. I think besides calling with this PF, you should be RR with the good position you have unless you know that this player is tight.
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: $50NL: Learning to play position

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Yeah seems fine besides PF call. I think besides calling with this PF, you should be RR with the good position you have unless you know that this player is tight.

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