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Old 09-14-2006, 12:56 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default K9s - Good spot for a 3-barrel?

I very seldom do 3-barrel bluffs, is this a good spot for one?

Have been at the table for just a few orbits, no reads on Villian.

Villian (BB) has $448 and Hero has $822.

Crypto 2/5 6-handed

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
1 fold, Hero raises to 22, 3 folds, Villian calls

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (46, 2 players)
Villian checks, Hero bets 41, Villian calls

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (128, 2 players)
Villian checks, Hero bets 110, Villian calls

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (348, 2 players)
Villian checks, Hero..?

On the river Villian has $275 left. Is this a good spot for a 3 barrel bluff?

Comments on all streets appreciated.
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Old 09-14-2006, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: K9s - Good spot for a 3-barrel?

what hand are you repping here? Have you been aggrro enough where a flopped flush would be profitable to take c/c c/c c/r line against you?

Looks like any A calls here.....
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Old 09-14-2006, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: K9s - Good spot for a 3-barrel?

What do you think he has been calling with?
The King of spades on the nut flush draw out of position and against the odds - he will surely fold and unlikely unless he is a terrible player.
A set that has improved to a boat is also unlikely that he will be check calling with this hand with the danger of another spade falling on the board, a flopped 2 pair such as AJ is also unlikely due to the lack of protection.
An ace with a semi-quality kicker that is a spade, which has improved to 2 pair on the river. This is probably the most likely option, with maybe an AQ or a possible AK, A10. In this situation do you think he will fold his Aces up against an AI river bet? You have represnted a very strong hand the whole way through right from the flop, and your betting indicates you want him all-in on the river.
I would go for it in this situation. Although there is always the chance that he flopped a flush and was waiting to re-raise the river but was scared by the board pairing. Even so i would still give it a shot.
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Old 09-14-2006, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: K9s - Good spot for a 3-barrel?

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what hand are you repping here? Have you been aggrro enough where a flopped flush would be profitable to take c/c c/c c/r line against you?

Looks like any A calls here.....

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I want to represent represent a strong hand, such as AK, AQ, set with my turn bet, or just make him fold the bare K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

I had been at the table only 3 orbits, I had been involved in one big pot where I called a CO raise on the button with QT, BB called as well, Flop AKx, roundcheck, turn J, BB leads I raise he calls and c/c a river PSB.

I had not been involved in a pot with Villian prior to this one.

Other than that I had maybe raised 2 times taking it down on the flop.
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Old 09-14-2006, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: K9s - Good spot for a 3-barrel?

"no reads on Villian."

Yes, that is usually expensive! :-(
Doesn't look like he's going anywhere. If he's bad enough to just call the turn with the lone King of spades he is probably calling you with an Ace on the river.
You should get KsJx to fold but I dunno, this is too risky.
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Old 09-14-2006, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: K9s - Good spot for a 3-barrel?

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"no reads on Villian."

Yes, that is usually expensive! :-(
Doesn't look like he's going anywhere. If he's bad enough to just call the turn with the lone King of spades he is probably calling you with an Ace on the river.
You should get KsJx to fold but I dunno, this is too risky.

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He could easily have Ax-2pair of some sort, or KQs or other random flush if you have no read. Expensive but tricky.
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Old 09-14-2006, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: K9s - Good spot for a 3-barrel?

What about the turn bet? Is this a check for you vs an uknown.
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Old 09-14-2006, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: K9s - Good spot for a 3-barrel?

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Old 09-14-2006, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: K9s - Good spot for a 3-barrel?

well, it only has to work 31% percent of time. If villain isnt scandanavian, i prob do it.
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Old 09-14-2006, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: K9s - Good spot for a 3-barrel?

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well, it only has to work 31% percent of time. If villain isnt scandanavian, i prob do it.

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Why are you less inclined doing it against a scandinavian? fwiw I am scandinavian.

I am intrested on thoughts on the other streets than the river. Open with K9s in MP is certainly not standard for me and idiotic without good reads, right? What concerns me most is the turn bet, is that fine?
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