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Old 01-09-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default 50NL makes straight on paired board on the river

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $52.10
UTG+1: $21.30
hero: $49.75
Button: $65.75
SB: $122.87
BB: $54.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $1.75</font>, hero calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4.25, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $3</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($10.25, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, hero checks.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $2.5</font>, hero?


calls, raises? The bet is really small, I imagine if I raise I'll get value out of alot of As, however FH is possible. from his flop play an A is very likely imo.

reads: can't remember, sorry!
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: 50NL makes straight on paired board on the river

This looks like a missed flush draw to me, so we are probably not going to get much value if we raise. Therefore, I think a miniraise amountish will extract the most value.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: 50NL makes straight on paired board on the river

and obv. call if he pushes?
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: 50NL makes straight on paired board on the river

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This looks like a missed flush draw to me, so we are probably not going to get much value if we raise. Therefore, I think a miniraise amountish will extract the most value.

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I don't understand this... if it's a missed flush draw he won't call even a minraise, so any raise at all cannot be profitable. Unless I have a real good read I don't like raising here. There are few hands we beat that would call a raise. If villain had checked, I'd have checked behind.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:13 AM
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There are few hands we beat that would call a raise

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alot of Ax hands
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: 50NL makes straight on paired board on the river

tons of hands call a raise. I raise and fold to a push w/o reads
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:16 AM
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how much do you raise to evil?
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:17 AM
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alot of Ax hands

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True, but if he has a lone A, I don't understand why he let the flush draw for free. I'd have led both flop and turn with a A, unless I happened to have A8 (or AT on the turn).
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:19 AM
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I'd have led both flop and turn with a A, unless I happened to have A8 (or AT on the turn)

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i know, and it's clearly the correct play. However, alot of fishies see the 3 aces and are so afraid of not extracting enough from them that they slow play.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:22 AM
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I raise and fold to a push

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I'm not clear on this... if you think you have the best hand and it's good enough for a raise, why fold if he pushes? If you're not sure, why not just call?
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